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    Re: GOP plan to extend tax cuts for rich adds $36 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    so again, take from those who have nothing, so those who have everything can keep more of it? yeah, that makes sense
    Didn't read the article, I see. People making 50,000 a year and pay nothing in Federal Income taxes hardly are poor but somehow are ignored by people who want to penalize the so called rich? Noticed you ignored that many of those so called rich are business owners who actually employ people. Your class envy is an example of why liberalism is a failed ideology. You seem to care about what someone else pays in taxes while ignoring those that pay nothing. How typical!

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    Re: GOP plan to extend tax cuts for rich adds $36 billion

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    Didn't read the article, I see. People making 50,000 a year and pay nothing in Federal Income taxes hardly are poor but somehow are ignored by people who want to penalize the so called rich? Noticed you ignored that many of those so called rich are business owners who actually employ people. Your class envy is an example of why liberalism is a failed ideology. You seem to care about what someone else pays in taxes while ignoring those that pay nothing. How typical!
    back to the talking points i see..well, carry on, i'm sure others will continue with you.

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    Re: GOP plan to extend tax cuts for rich adds $36 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    back to the talking points i see..well, carry on, i'm sure others will continue with you.
    translation--Randel cannot refute or deal with the excellent point Conservative made that the socialists don't think its fair to be rich but think its perfectly fair to vote up taxes on others while paying none yourself



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    Re: GOP plan to extend tax cuts for rich adds $36 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Didn't read the article, I see. People making 50,000 a year and pay nothing in Federal Income taxes hardly are poor but somehow are ignored by people who want to penalize the so called rich? Noticed you ignored that many of those so called rich are business owners who actually employ people. Your class envy is an example of why liberalism is a failed ideology. You seem to care about what someone else pays in taxes while ignoring those that pay nothing. How typical!
    A peron making $50k/year pays a greater percentage of their income in taxes than Warren Buffett. Along the lines of +30% of their income (although i am leaving out FICA and medicare). Itemized deductions allow for a lower tax bracket, but when we include FICA and medicare, it jumps back to around 30%.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: GOP plan to extend tax cuts for rich adds $36 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    A peron making $50k/year pays a greater percentage of their income in taxes than Warren Buffett. Along the lines of +30% of their income (although i am leaving out FICA and medicare). Itemized deductions allow for a lower tax bracket, but when we include FICA and medicare, it jumps back to around 30%.
    a guy making 50K a year spends a greater percentage of his income on a chesseburger than I do. Are you claiming I should have to pay 10 times more than that guy because I make more than ten times what he does?

    Buffett structures his compensation to avoid taxes and then claims that is unfair. Buffett also pays millions in taxes-do you think Buffett uses 10000 times more government services than your example

    tell me-what De Jure Benefits does Buffett get from the Government in return for paying millions in taxes--



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    Re: GOP plan to extend tax cuts for rich adds $36 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    A peron making $50k/year pays a greater percentage of their income in taxes than Warren Buffett. Along the lines of +30% of their income (although i am leaving out FICA and medicare). Itemized deductions allow for a lower tax bracket, but when we include FICA and medicare, it jumps back to around 30%.
    Your outrage over someone else pays in taxes and ignoring that 47% pay zero Federal Income taxes is quite telling. Taking advantage of many of the deductions available many in that 50,000 range pay zero in Federal Income taxes thus your argument is absolutely absurd.

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    Re: GOP plan to extend tax cuts for rich adds $36 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    a guy making 50K a year spends a greater percentage of his income on a chesseburger than I do. Are you claiming I should have to pay 10 times more than that guy because I make more than ten times what he does?

    Buffett structures his compensation to avoid taxes and then claims that is unfair. Buffett also pays millions in taxes-do you think Buffett uses 10000 times more government services than your example

    tell me-what De Jure Benefits does Buffett get from the Government in return for paying millions in taxes--
    Outstanding post and analysis

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    Re: GOP plan to extend tax cuts for rich adds $36 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Your outrage over someone else pays in taxes and ignoring that 47% pay zero Federal Income taxes is quite telling. Taking advantage of many of the deductions available many in that 50,000 range pay zero in Federal Income taxes thus your argument is absolutely absurd.
    You can back this up. I am not making a judgment call, only setting the record straight. To state that a person making $50k gross/year pays zero federal taxes is of course absurd (and displays your desire to make things up to suit your ideology).
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: GOP plan to extend tax cuts for rich adds $36 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    You can back this up. I am not making a judgment call, only setting the record straight. To state that a person making $50k gross/year pays zero federal taxes is of course absurd (and displays your desire to make things up to suit your ideology).
    Of course I can back it up. Maybe if you spent less time on theory and more time focusing on what is actually happening you would have more credibility.

    Nearly half of US households escape fed income tax - Yahoo! Finance

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    Re: GOP plan to extend tax cuts for rich adds $36 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Of course I can back it up. Maybe if you spent less time on theory and more time focusing on what is actually happening you would have more credibility.

    Nearly half of US households escape fed income tax - Yahoo! Finance
    From your article:
    Less noticed were tax cuts for low- and middle-income families, which were expanded when Obama signed the massive economic recovery package last year.
    So you should love Obama for cutting taxes.

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