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    Re: GOP plan to extend tax cuts for rich adds $36 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    the error in your statement is that 'all' of those whom you say 'pay to little' will always vote to tax others....
    How will an increase in taxes on those "rich" business owners affect employment and prices they charge the public? then how will that increase in prices affect sales and thus tax revenue?

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    Re: GOP plan to extend tax cuts for rich adds $36 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    the error in your statement is that 'all' of those whom you say 'pay to little' will always vote to tax others....
    The people who tend to be the most reliable dem votes are.

    who do you think the Obamunists were appealing to when they said they would only raise taxes on those making 200K or more?



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    Re: GOP plan to extend tax cuts for rich adds $36 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    as someone whose social circles mainly involve those targeted for the Clinton/Pelosi/Obama tax hikes, I know people are changing their habits. Shifting away from dividend generating income to capital gains. Some moving assets off shore, cutting back on the spending that the economy needs to expand. Remember when the Dumbocrats passed a "luxury tax" on Yachts etc? who got hurt? Not rich people buying Yachts but the blue collar people who build them
    Amazing, isn't it, how liberals actually hurt the people they claim they want to help. The total ignorance on understanding human behavior is quite staggering.

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    Re: GOP plan to extend tax cuts for rich adds $36 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    it won't but by jacking up taxes on the wealthy the dems will generate lots of votes from the envious and the spiteful
    It was the Republicans who put the expiration date on the bill, not the Democrats.


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    Re: GOP plan to extend tax cuts for rich adds $36 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    It was the Republicans who put the expiration date on the bill, not the Democrats.
    Now there you go again, failure to recognize why an expiration date was put on the bill. Why do you ignore history?

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    Re: GOP plan to extend tax cuts for rich adds $36 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    The people who tend to be the most reliable dem votes are.

    who do you think the Obamunists were appealing to when they said they would only raise taxes on those making 200K or more?
    if you are going to raise taxes on someone(and eventually, to dig ourselves out from our mountain of debt, something both dems and repubs are guilty of creating , we will have to) where does it make sense to try and get the revenue from?? from those that don't have a pot to piss in? or from those who do? you and conservative keep screaming 'class warfare' and keep claiming that 'your jealous of the rich' ...bull....tell me, where does it make sense to try and get the revenue from? where? common sense man, common sense.

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    Re: GOP plan to extend tax cuts for rich adds $36 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    How will an increase in taxes on those "rich" business owners affect employment and prices they charge the public? then how will that increase in prices affect sales and thus tax revenue?
    The effect will be a more stable economy. The Great Depression happened after taxes were lowered to 24%. Black Monday happened after Reagan lowered taxes and the current mess were are in was after Bush lowered taxes. The rich use the extra money from tax cuts to speculate, not to hire more people. They hire people when there is demand for their products and services.

    George H.W. Bush once called supply-side economics VooDoo economics and he was correct.


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    Re: Dem vs Rep Tax Cut Plan in Graph form!

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    1) it was an honest question since your posts appear to be the antithesis of the libertarian philosophy.
    I was unaware political labels were grounds for debate regarding fiscal policy.

    Since I was Ed Clark's campaign chairman for New Haven in 1980 I have a fairly good understanding of what it means to be a libertarian
    That's nice.

    2) You haven't demonstrated anything that would suggest that you are in a position to make such a pronouncement
    Seriously??? I mean.... Seriously? The day i begin going off topic to discuss your political lean is the day you'd have a point.

    3) others have noted your perspective is one of statist or welfare socialist as well
    People caught up in labels are the first to "note". You know, the "im a libertarian because its cool" crowd. If you would like to discuss me as opposed to the topic, by all mean send me a PM. Or make a post in another sub forum.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: GOP plan to extend tax cuts for rich adds $36 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Amazing, isn't it, how liberals actually hurt the people they claim they want to help. The total ignorance on understanding human behavior is quite staggering.
    Most things the Dem/Liberal leadership say are lies or pretexts for lies

    example

    1) lib elites say their welfare socialist schemes are designed to help the poor. In reality, those schemes keep people mired in poverty and dependent on dem leaders. By doing so, dem leaders create a permanent underclass of voters who keep them in office and wealthy

    2) dems claim their gun control schemes will make us safer when in reality those schemes embolden criminals and cause honest people to feel they are in danger leading citizens to abdicate more rights to the government in return for sketchy promises of more safety. Furthermore by pushing gun control dems can claim they are doing something "about crime" while actually making the lives of criminals safer

    3) dems claim they want to "protect jobs" by burdening American Corporations with all sorts of rules, taxes and red tape that actually cause corporations to move off shore to remain profitable. Then Dem leader demonize those corporations in order to gain more political power from the brain dead union types who haven't figured out yet that corporations are founded to make their owners money, not to support and feed a union



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    Re: GOP plan to extend tax cuts for rich adds $36 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    It was the Republicans who put the expiration date on the bill, not the Democrats.
    It was a desperate attempt to pass needed cuts--you are right, they should have made them permanent but the dems would have blocked the legislation



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