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    Re: Dem vs Rep Tax Cut Plan in Graph form!

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Gee, I always thought that payroll taxes were SS taxes and that "contributions" to SS would lead to benefits when the individual retired.
    Just another thing to add to your list of things you got wrong.
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    Re: Dem vs Rep Tax Cut Plan in Graph form!

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    some of us are smart enough to be attacked by the envious. some others are not
    Some of us are smart enough to realize you're a hack.

    and what special privileges do the majority of us targeted for Obamascum tax hikes get? I am talking about people making 200k to a couple million a year. tell me what do we get for having more than half of the next dollar we earn taken by the dem parasites?
    Oh look. Once again Turtledude proves he is incapable of addressing what he quotes and instead goes off on irrelevant tirades to hide the fact he has no argument.

    and FICA isn't the tax that your Idiot in chief is talking about hiking
    Our idiot in chief. Thanks for proving you aren't honest in any way shape or form.
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    Re: Dem vs Rep Tax Cut Plan in Graph form!

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you make the assumption that tax hikes on those who already pay too much of the taxes will lead to increased revenues

    I don't think that is true. that is the major problem with liberal arguments. the assumption that people won't change anything other than how big the check they write the parasitic government
    Bolding mine.

    Exactly! You don't THINK that is true. You're just assuming too.

    That is the major problem with conservative arguments. The idea that someone would work their ass off to get rich at a 35% tax rate but would then rather sit their ass and be poor instead of paying a 40% tax rate is simply ridiculous. For one more nickel on the dollar? It's absurd.

    If the rich have tax shelters THEY'RE ALREADY USING THEM. Again, nobody is going to work their ass off to shelter money from a 40% tax rate but not a 35% tax rate. If I can stick my money in an account in the Cayman's I'm doing so to avoid a 1% tax rate. Therefore any increase in tax rate WOULD NOT effect evasion since I'm doing it no matter what rate my money is taxed at.
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    Re: Dem vs Rep Tax Cut Plan in Graph form!

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyberhwk View Post
    Bolding mine.

    Exactly! You don't THINK that is true. You're just assuming too.

    That is the major problem with conservative arguments. The idea that someone would work their ass off to get rich at a 35% tax rate but would then rather sit their ass and be poor instead of paying a 40% tax rate is simply ridiculous. For one more nickel on the dollar? It's absurd.

    If the rich have tax shelters THEY'RE ALREADY USING THEM. Again, nobody is going to work their ass off to shelter money from a 40% tax rate but not a 35% tax rate. If I can stick my money in an account in the Cayman's I'm doing so to avoid a 1% tax rate. Therefore any increase in tax rate WOULD NOT effect evasion since I'm doing it no matter what rate my money is taxed at.
    Why is it so important to you what someone else pays in taxes and why would you want more of your dollars to go to politicians in D.C.? Regardless of the amount, how does raising taxes employ people?

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    Re: Dem vs Rep Tax Cut Plan in Graph form!

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Just another thing to add to your list of things you got wrong.
    Aw, thanks so much again for a truly brilliant response. When someone calls for a payroll tax then what exactly are they proposing to cut?

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    Re: Dem vs Rep Tax Cut Plan in Graph form!

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyberhwk View Post
    Bolding mine.

    Exactly! You don't THINK that is true. You're just assuming too.

    That is the major problem with conservative arguments. The idea that someone would work their ass off to get rich at a 35% tax rate but would then rather sit their ass and be poor instead of paying a 40% tax rate is simply ridiculous. For one more nickel on the dollar? It's absurd.

    If the rich have tax shelters THEY'RE ALREADY USING THEM. Again, nobody is going to work their ass off to shelter money from a 40% tax rate but not a 35% tax rate. If I can stick my money in an account in the Cayman's I'm doing so to avoid a 1% tax rate. Therefore any increase in tax rate WOULD NOT effect evasion since I'm doing it no matter what rate my money is taxed at.
    you fail because you limit your inquiry to rich engaging in tax avoidance

    as taxes go up, business will cut expansion etc

    tell me why did tax revenues go up when Bush cut taxes

    you also ignore the effect on the economy

    try again



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    Re: Dem vs Rep Tax Cut Plan in Graph form!

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Why is it so important to you what someone else pays in taxes and why would you want more of your dollars to go to politicians in D.C.? Regardless of the amount, how does raising taxes employ people?
    envy and class hatred tends to be the best explanation

    libs like to show concern for the "greater good" by throwing other peoples' money at problems and then taking the credit for being "generous"



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    Re: Dem vs Rep Tax Cut Plan in Graph form!

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Some of us are smart enough to realize you're a hack.



    Oh look. Once again Turtledude proves he is incapable of addressing what he quotes and instead goes off on irrelevant tirades to hide the fact he has no argument.



    Our idiot in chief. Thanks for proving you aren't honest in any way shape or form.
    LOL you call me a hack? too funny for words

    Obama's policies are idiotic and you lap them up



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    Re: Dem vs Rep Tax Cut Plan in Graph form!

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyberhwk View Post
    Bolding mine.

    Exactly! You don't THINK that is true. You're just assuming too.

    That is the major problem with conservative arguments. The idea that someone would work their ass off to get rich at a 35% tax rate but would then rather sit their ass and be poor instead of paying a 40% tax rate is simply ridiculous. For one more nickel on the dollar? It's absurd.
    some will, yes. certainly not to the point where you would see a drop in revenues (unless you also increased the capital gains tax and destroyed investment, which is far more sensitive), but some absolutely will.

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    Re: Dem vs Rep Tax Cut Plan in Graph form!

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    some will, yes. certainly not to the point where you would see a drop in revenues (unless you also increased the capital gains tax and destroyed investment, which is far more sensitive), but some absolutely will.
    I think that far too many miss the point, if money is taken from the American people, sent to the govt. that has no constraints on spending, the situation will continue to get worse as the money will be spent on progams the Federal Govt. has no business getting involved in. When it is kept by the taxpayer at least it is spent by the taxpayers and can help that taxpayer become less dependent on the govt. and that scares the hell out of liberals.

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