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    Re: Dem vs Rep Tax Cut Plan in Graph form!

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    If you have been following my posts you would know that I am against any tax increases and especially now with 16 million unemployed Americans. I don't see how any tax increase will put these people back to work and how tax increases positively affect our consumer driven economy? Unless we are at full employment or close to it, I have never seen a tax increase grow govt. revenue. My concern continues to be the politicians in D.C. that have an appetite for spending so the more money they get the more they spend so even if a tax increase generates more money fiscal discipline is required to put any additional revenue to debt reduction. Right now the best way to grow revenue is to increase the number of tax payers by growing demand and that can only be done through tax cuts.
    The Bush tax cuts that currently exist aren't growing jobs, are they?
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    Re: Dem vs Rep Tax Cut Plan in Graph form!

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    The Bush tax cuts that currently exist aren't growing jobs, are they?
    No, they aren't but it isn't because of the tax cuts, it is because of other economic conditions that cost people jobs. Hard to cut taxes on unemployment benefits.

    Why are so many here against keeping more of their own money? Please don't tell me it is because they believe it is for the good of the nation!

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    Re: GOP plan to extend tax cuts for rich adds $36 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by WingsOfDesire View Post
    The Republicans are lead by McConnell, Boehner, and Steele.. so I can't begin my sentence with, "If the Republicans were smart..."

    Instead I just have to say: See: Bush Tax Cuts. yeah, that turned out to be a real winner

    Smart tax cuts don't exist anymore, just "oh, woe on the rich, they're too heavily taxed"... these morons might find themselves a winning platform with across the board tax cuts, but it won't benefit America in the long haul
    Let's look at the track record of the smart Dems.....Reid, Pelosi, Geitner

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    Re: Dem vs Rep Tax Cut Plan in Graph form!

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    The Bush tax cuts that currently exist aren't growing jobs, are they?
    Why would they when dwarfed by massive $trillion spending plans? Any other questions?
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    Re: Dem vs Rep Tax Cut Plan in Graph form!

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    No, they aren't but it isn't because of the tax cuts, it is because of other economic conditions that cost people jobs. Hard to cut taxes on unemployment benefits.

    Why are so many here against keeping more of their own money? Please don't tell me it is because they believe it is for the good of the nation!
    You used the word ONLY, and it is my opinion that absolutes should not be used. Leave out the word only, and I might be more inclined to buy into your statement...
    and, I think encouraging spending from the private sector thru selected tax cuts aimed at the trillions tied up in stagnant retiree accounts is the way to go...
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    Re: Dem vs Rep Tax Cut Plan in Graph form!

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    You used the word ONLY, and it is my opinion that absolutes should not be used. Leave out the word only, and I might be more inclined to buy into your statement...
    and, I think encouraging spending from the private sector thru selected tax cuts aimed at the trillions tied up in stagnant retiree accounts is the way to go...
    Why do you want to pick and choose who has money to spend and who gets tax cuts? Believe it or not the rich spend their money just like the middle class. Freeing up money from stagnant retiree accounts is good but not as good as across the board tax cuts. I cannot get anyone here to tell us how to get 16 million people employed. One poster claimed improve consumer confidence. Wonder if that post knows what a consumer is? Don't know about you but having more spendable income improves my confidence and believe it or not I am a consumer

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    Re: Dem vs Rep Tax Cut Plan in Graph form!

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    No, they aren't but it isn't because of the tax cuts, it is because of other economic conditions that cost people jobs. Hard to cut taxes on unemployment benefits.


    Numerical data points:

    Job Growth Under Bush and Prior Presidents: 1941 to Present


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    Re: Dem vs Rep Tax Cut Plan in Graph form!

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    I don't know what motivates people like you to pick and choose what you respond to and then only post data that you believe supports your point of view. Cannot help but you didn't respond to the current charts at all and continue to buy the rhetoric of the Obama Administration. I guess people from Oregon have been brainwashed so long that there must not be a lot of brain left.

    If you bothered to pay attention to the current charts you would see that unemployment is higher each month in 2010 than it was in 2009 and that employment continues to decline as well.

    Now I understand your strong desire to go back to the Bush years and compare them to previous Administrations as if that matters today. I could refute your charts but you just ignore anything that refutes your posts so why waste the time. Instead I will continue to point out the disaster that you apparently voted for and the mess he has created.

    Blaming Bush doesn't solve the problems we have today nor does diverting to meaningless charts comparing Bush to previous Administrations. There are 16 million people unemployed today so my question is when are you and any other Obama supporter going to get around to addressing that problem?

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    Re: Dem vs Rep Tax Cut Plan in Graph form!

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Why do you want to pick and choose who has money to spend and who gets tax cuts? Believe it or not the rich spend their money just like the middle class. Freeing up money from stagnant retiree accounts is good but not as good as across the board tax cuts. I cannot get anyone here to tell us how to get 16 million people employed. One poster claimed improve consumer confidence. Wonder if that post knows what a consumer is? Don't know about you but having more spendable income improves my confidence and believe it or not I am a consumer
    You really think the GOP doesn't pick and choose?
    What is better for the economy, X amount of billionaires, or 1000X millionaires? The typical poorly educated middle class think that getting back a few hundred dollars extra each year is such a wonderful thing that we should let the rich get back a few million extra every year.
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    Re: Dem vs Rep Tax Cut Plan in Graph form!

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I don't know what motivates people like you to pick and choose what you respond to and then only post data that you believe supports your point of view. Cannot help but you didn't respond to the current charts at all and continue to buy the rhetoric of the Obama Administration. I guess people from Oregon have been brainwashed so long that there must not be a lot of brain left.

    If you bothered to pay attention to the current charts you would see that unemployment is higher each month in 2010 than it was in 2009 and that employment continues to decline as well.

    Now I understand your strong desire to go back to the Bush years and compare them to previous Administrations as if that matters today. I could refute your charts but you just ignore anything that refutes your posts so why waste the time. Instead I will continue to point out the disaster that you apparently voted for and the mess he has created.

    Blaming Bush doesn't solve the problems we have today nor does diverting to meaningless charts comparing Bush to previous Administrations. There are 16 million people unemployed today so my question is when are you and any other Obama supporter going to get around to addressing that problem?
    Charts are only meaningless when the don't support your point of view....
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