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    State Department: Taliban is not a terrorist organization

    Quote Originally Posted by Daily Caller

    By Amanda Carey - The Daily Caller | Published: 11:39 AM 08/10/2010 | Updated: 1:42 AM 08/11/2010

    A new State Department report designating terrorist organizations notably excludes one group: the Taliban. The U.S. has been fighting a war in Afghanistan for almost a decade aimed at “defeating the Taliban,” Taliban members repeatedly have threatened and killed American citizens and lawmakers have increased pressure on State to add the Taliban to the list.

    Earlier this summer, a group of congressional Democrats sent a letter to Secretary of State Hilary Clinton urging her to begin the process of categorizing the Taliban as a terrorist group. In June, Sens. Charles Schumer and Kristen Gillibrand of New York and Frank Lautenberg and Robert Menendez of New Jersey proposed legislation that would immediately add the Taliban to the terrorist list.

    Yet the State Department’s report (due on April 30 but released last week), did not include the Taliban with groups such as al-Qaida, Hamas and the Real Irish Republican Army (RIRA). To qualify, an organization must meet only three criteria: It must be foreign, it must engage in terrorist activity and its activity must threaten the security of the U.S. or its citizens.

    “It is hard to imagine this agency can see fit to issue a report that doesn’t include the Taliban groups,” Fred Gedrich, a foreign policy analyst and former State Department employee, told The Daily Caller. “They have killed more Americans and conducted more terror attacks on innocent civilians during the past 12 months than any other terror group.“ LINK
    How is it that the Taliban are left off? Simply oversight or is it purposeful?

    Here's the State Department list released Aug 5th.

    Country Reports on Terrorism 2009 Chapter 6. Terrorist Organizations
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    Re: State Department: Taliban is not a terrorist organization

    My guess is that it is purposeful. Excluding the Taliban from the list makes it easier for the U.S. to rationalize inviting the Taliban to participate in dialogue/negotiations/governance in Afghanistan.

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    Re: State Department: Taliban is not a terrorist organization

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    My guess is that it is purposeful. Excluding the Taliban from the list makes it easier for the U.S. to rationalize inviting the Taliban to participate in dialogue/negotiations/governance in Afghanistan.
    I agree with Don, the US wants to avoid the same mistake it made with Hamas, as well as with De-Baathification.

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    Re: State Department: Taliban is not a terrorist organization

    Doesnt matter either way. "Terrorist" is an absolutely meaningless word.
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    Re: State Department: Taliban is not a terrorist organization

    9 dead doctors and their families would disagree...

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    Re: State Department: Taliban is not a terrorist organization

    Actually, I can understand why the Taliban wasn't characterized as a terrorist organization. No report that I'm aware of ever indicated that the Taliban planned attacks against the U.S. prior to 9/11. They only acted as the governing body within Afghanastan and committed inhumane acts against their own people.

    What they've done against U.S. and coalition forces since the War on Terror began is another story. But still, I'd classify them as a hostile governing body rather than a terrorist group only because their "reach" has never gone beyond Afghanistan and Pakistan, whereas Al Quaida has long had global.

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    Re: State Department: Taliban is not a terrorist organization

    Let me tell you what has really creeped me out before. Whenever Obama would say Tal i ban it sounded like a term of endearment. I never notice that when he talks about America or our troops.
    I know, I probably am imagining it, but it still makes the hair stand up on the back of my neck.

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    Re: State Department: Taliban is not a terrorist organization

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Actually, I can understand why the Taliban wasn't characterized as a terrorist organization. No report that I'm aware of ever indicated that the Taliban planned attacks against the U.S. prior to 9/11. They only acted as the governing body within Afghanastan and committed inhumane acts against their own people.

    What they've done against U.S. and coalition forces since the War on Terror began is another story. But still, I'd classify them as a hostile governing body rather than a terrorist group only because their "reach" has never gone beyond Afghanistan and Pakistan, whereas Al Quaida has long had global.
    If you are correct what the heck are we doing with 100K trying to wipe them out? There are a number of "hostile" governing bodies out there. Would it be O.K. for Obama to send troups all over the world to eradicate them?

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    Re: State Department: Taliban is not a terrorist organization

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Let me tell you what has really creeped me out before. Whenever Obama would say Tal i ban it sounded like a term of endearment. I never notice that when he talks about America or our troops.
    I know, I probably am imagining it, but it still makes the hair stand up on the back of my neck.
    Or you're probably an idiot and do really believe that Obama is actually using it as a term of endearment. The jury is still out on this and it could go either way. I'm not saying you're an idiot, but I don't really know. You know? Anything is possible in the age of secret Muslims.
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    Re: State Department: Taliban is not a terrorist organization

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Let me tell you what has really creeped me out before. Whenever Obama would say Tal i ban it sounded like a term of endearment. I never notice that when he talks about America or our troops.
    Oh jesus-freewheeling-christ, seriously? You have to be THAT partisan? That is extremely sad and I feel very sorry for you if that is your outlook.

    I know, I probably am imagining it
    Gee, what tipped you off?
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