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    Re: Teachers unions cash in at expense of food stamp recipients

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Envious, nah.
    Resentful you bet, the inferior education that is provided isn't worth what it costs.

    Don't worry, we're already on a path to lose our educational competitiveness as it is.



    No, I'm realistic.
    When people borrow money in my name to save bloated employment sectors.
    I call foul.
    Save your fear mongering.
    ok, so you would prefer that the public sector not involve itself in public policing, fire emergencies or education
    that in no way is a position which could be termed "realistic"
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    Re: Teachers unions cash in at expense of food stamp recipients

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    ok, so you would prefer that the public sector not involve itself in public policing, fire emergencies or education
    that in no way is a position which could be termed "realistic"
    I didn't say that at all, don't put words into my mouth.
    I said bloated, we either pay them to much or there are to many on the dole.
    I think it's the former instead of the later.
    Pay cuts would be fine with me.
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    Re: Teachers unions cash in at expense of food stamp recipients

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Not the broad economic reality the rest of us have to face.
    I've had to deal with shorter work hours with reductions in pay and no guaranteed golden parachute retirement.

    Yea, they are out of the mainstream when it comes to compensation.
    Really. I have larger classrooms. I have to teach more students at less pay, overage is being cut. We lost 26 instructors last year and our football team. What exactly are we not feeling?

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    Re: Teachers unions cash in at expense of food stamp recipients

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Really. I have larger classrooms. I have to teach more students at less pay, overage is being cut. We lost 26 instructors last year and our football team. What exactly are we not feeling?
    That's good, it should be that way.
    I don't think the feds need to step in to bail any of you out.
    Same goes for the any other employment sector.
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    Re: Teachers unions cash in at expense of food stamp recipients

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I didn't say that at all, don't put words into my mouth.
    I said bloated, we either pay them to much or there are to many on the dole.
    I think it's the former instead of the later.
    Pay cuts would be fine with me.
    you resent the federal government's intervention to staff adequate police, firemen and teachers to perform their jobs
    but you now insist you are OK with the public sector being responsible for fire, policing and education
    notice how you seem not to have a clue what you are arguing about
    it must be concluded that you are offering us a first hand perspective regarding the inadequacies of a public education
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Teachers unions cash in at expense of food stamp recipients

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    you resent the federal government's intervention to staff adequate police, firemen and teachers to perform their jobs
    Yep, they shouldn't be involved.

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    but you now insist you are OK with the public sector being responsible for fire, policing and education
    I didn't say it was wrong before.
    There you go making things up.

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    notice how you seem not to have a clue what you are arguing about
    it must be concluded that you are offering us a first hand perspective regarding the inadequacies of a public education
    I don't know man, it seems that you have a reading comprehension problem or your being intentionally dishonest.

    I see, that lately, you've been trying to approach topics from an intellectual perspective.
    You're going to have to beef it up a bit.
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    Re: Teachers unions cash in at expense of food stamp recipients

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    That's good, it should be that way.
    I don't think the feds need to step in to bail any of you out.
    Same goes for the any other employment sector.
    I haven't asked them to, but remember, this effects the education your children receive. No way around it. Larger classrooms, less one on one time, less hands on, more multiple choice tests and less critical thinking. It all has consequneces.

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    Re: Teachers unions cash in at expense of food stamp recipients

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I haven't asked them to, but remember, this effects the education your children receive. No way around it. Larger classrooms, less one on one time, less hands on, more multiple choice tests and less critical thinking. It all has consequneces.
    Not my children, I don't dump my kids off at the government baby sitting service.
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    Re: Teachers unions cash in at expense of food stamp recipients

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Not my children, I don't dump my kids off at the government baby sitting service.
    I don't baby sit. But the effects are real all the same.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Teachers unions cash in at expense of food stamp recipients

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It is a public pension. I work for a state school and this is the state pension fund. We pay into and the State matches funds. It is invested in the market (someone thought that was a good idea). The fund is not doing well:

    In 2008, IPERS showed a portfolio worth $22 billion. Today the portfolio value hovers around $18 billion.

    Iowa House Republicans » IPERS Net Worth Down 18 Percent

    GENERAL INFORMATION

    1. IPERS Trust Fund lost about $4.4 billion last year.

    2. IPERS experienced a negative net return of about -16.27% during FY 2009.

    School Administrators of Iowa - IPERS
    Compared to other states, your pension fund isn't doing too badly. Public pension funds across the nation are allll bleeding red ink. Actually, I must admit that it looks as though your state's got it a whole lot more right than Illinois. I plugged in $73K and $45K/annual and that you were retiring September 1st, single not married -- pension benefit around $1900/month. This is a far cry from Illinois pensions for teachers. In yours and my case, I think we're talking apples and oranges.
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