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    Re: Let gays begin marrying, Schwarzenegger urges

    I wouldn't say "screw religion" that is taking it to far. If a church would like to marry then great, if not then the gays can have a big ole gay time somewhere else.
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    Re: Let gays begin marrying, Schwarzenegger urges

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    As long as the government doesnt force religious places to perform ceremonies everything should be fine.
    The govenment won't do that. Instead, the government will enable churches that support gays to escape being dictated to by others, who don't believe in God the same way they do.
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    Re: Let gays begin marrying, Schwarzenegger urges

    I'm really expecting Chief Justice Kennedy to issue a stay on same sex marriages if Walker doesn't. That tends to be his style with these kinds of debates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    I'm really expecting Chief Justice Kennedy to issue a stay on same sex marriages if Walker doesn't. That tends to be his style with these kinds of debates.
    And well he should until this is settled law.
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    Re: Let gays begin marrying, Schwarzenegger urges

    This is why he didn't get a leading role in the Expendibles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    This is why he didn't get a leading role in the Expendibles.
    OK, I admit it, I laughed in real life at this. Took me a second, then it clicked.
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    Re: Let gays begin marrying, Schwarzenegger urges

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    We do, we have the liberty to vote and to have our morals put into laws.

    Not when those laws take away the rights of other citizens. Because the contract of marriage comes with certain rights and benefits it's unconstitutional to deprive a group of those rights.

    That's why we have a constitutional republic. You can't have 51% of the population take away the rights of the other 49%.

    On another note that's why as I've stared before the term marriage should be replaced with civil union for all citizens gay and straight.

    Then if you want to get married you can do so at your church or wherever you want.
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    Re: Let gays begin marrying, Schwarzenegger urges

    Seems like the right thing to do is wait a bit so that the dust can settle and people don't end up having to go through the whole process again.

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    Re: Let gays begin marrying, Schwarzenegger urges

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    As long as the government doesnt force religious places to perform ceremonies everything should be fine.
    The 1st Amendment precludes the govt from doing so.
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    Re: Let gays begin marrying, Schwarzenegger urges

    SAN FRANCISCO — A federal appeals court has extended a stay on same-sex marriages in California until it decides whether a ban on such unions is constitutional.

    It is just the latest turn in a protracted legal battle over Proposition 8, the voter-approved ban.

    The ruling, issued by a three-judge panel of the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit, came less than a week after a federal district judge, Vaughn R. Walker, lifted a stay he had imposed to allow proponents of the ban to argue why same-sex marriages should not proceed. On Aug. 4, Judge Walker ruled that Proposition 8 was unconstitutional.

    Even when lifting his stay on Thursday, Judge Walker allowed six days for the Ninth Circuit to review his ruling. That left many gay and lesbian couples and their supporters hopeful that same-sex marriages would resume Wednesday at 5 p.m., when Judge Walker’s stay would have expired.

    That will not happen. Now, such weddings will not resume until, at least, the appeals court decides the case. And perhaps not until it is decided by the United States Supreme Court, where it seems to be headed.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/17/us/17prop.html

    Walker knew his decision would be over ruled by the appeals court which is why he put a stay on his ruling in the first place. He then lifted his stay but set it back until tomorrow knowing the 3 judge panel would extend the stay until they had a chance to hear the appeal. If the appeals court over turns the California Constitutional amendment, they too will place a stay on their decision until it can get to the Supreme Court.......... And this how it should be IMNSHO.
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