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    Re: The World's Happiest Countries

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    ...while the USA are a continent.
    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister
    Australia's a continent too, and it's happier.
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    Re: The World's Happiest Countries

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    I think both of you need to go and look at a globe again, and study the North American continent a bit better. It has more then just the US in it. Canada, Mexico and the various central American countries are there as well
    I think bub was making a comparison on size and population distribution.


    Yea the U.S. isn't the only country on the continent but we might as well be.
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    Re: The World's Happiest Countries

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Well look at from a statistical distribution standpoint.

    I think Aborigines make up around 3% of your population.
    So even if they are miserable (0 on the scale), if would hardly have any effect on the statistical outcome.

    I think any country with a sizable minority population will have a lesser happiness score for that reason alone.
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    Re: The World's Happiest Countries

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    fair enough.
    Understand though, that I'm not trying to make excuses.
    There are plenty of things we could do to make our population happier but depending on what the expense would be, it kinda worthless for me.
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    Re: The World's Happiest Countries

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Understand though, that I'm not trying to make excuses.
    There are plenty of things we could do to make our population happier but depending on what the expense would be, it kinda worthless for me.
    yeah, us happier countries tend to have a bigger government, and i know how much you'd like that

    from my observations, i think what makes America a less happy country, is that, as a people, you are very concerned about everything, religion, politics etc. it's all a big deal in America, and it's these things people would say make them unhappy, it's probably also why your country has such a strong economy, but here in Australia, no really gives a **** about which party is in power outside of election time.

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    Re: The World's Happiest Countries

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    yeah, us happier countries tend to have a bigger government, and i know how much you'd like that

    from my observations, i think what makes America a less happy country, is that, as a people, you are very concerned about everything, religion, politics etc. it's all a big deal in America, and it's these things people would say make them unhappy, it's probably also why your country has such a strong economy, but here in Australia, no really gives a **** about which party is in power outside of election time.

    (sorry for my rambling, i can't sleep, so i'm in thinking mode(which doesn't happen very often))
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    Re: The World's Happiest Countries

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Australia's a continent too, and it's happier.
    Yeah but how many Australians are there? 15 millions? 20 millions? There are 300 millions americans, and I guess that there are rich areas near Washington or NY with 10 or 15 millions inhabitants who are as happy as the average Australian.

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    Re: The World's Happiest Countries

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    I think both of you need to go and look at a globe again, and study the North American continent a bit better. It has more then just the US in it. Canada, Mexico and the various central American countries are there as well
    I was just saying that with over 300 millions inhabitants, it would be more clever to compare the USA to the EU than the USA to Denmark.

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    Re: The World's Happiest Countries

    As for happiness, I think there are several factors explaining it, even if I believe there is no way to measure it precizely and make rankings of happy countries.

    First, there are basic needs: people need to have food, water, and they must be healthy. That's why all of the third world is at the bottom of the list.

    Then, you need security. That's why all the countries at war are also at the bottom of the list.

    Then, you need some freedom. You can remove all the dictatorships from the top of the list, even if people are in security and if they are not starving, like in Saudi Arabia.

    Then, when you have food, security and freedom, you have to find the good mix between wealth (work: everyone must be able to find a job and that job must bring a reasonable income, and there musn't be too much social disparities) and leisure (with a good quality of life and environment).

    I think the Scandinavian countries score so high because unemployment is very low, there aren't a lot of social disparities (that's easier when you have an homogeneous society), and they live in a healthy environment.

    I think the USA score less because, even if Americans are richer on average, there are huge disparities (there are some extremely rich Americans, but there are also extremely poor Americans, while in most Europeans societies, richs are only moderately rich and poors are moderately poor, thanks to our social security system). That may be explained because there are many minorities in the USA, and when there are big minorities it is more difficult to establish wealth redistribution (Danish are generous with their unemployed people because everyone there is Danish; they would be less generous if half of their jobless people were Africans).

    Another difference IMO is that people in Europe feel quite secure, while in the USA there seems to be a paranoia about terrorist attacks since 2001.

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    Re: The World's Happiest Countries

    Quote Originally Posted by bub View Post
    I was just saying that with over 300 millions inhabitants, it would be more clever to compare the USA to the EU than the USA to Denmark.
    The Population density of Denmark is 90 per square mile and in the USA it's 83 per square mille. They could be a fair comparison in this regard.
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