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    Re: Senate Cuts Food Stamp Funds; Leaves Oil and Gas Subsidies Intact

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I think we should include more people into the food stamp program, especially during economic bad times. Would you rather have people starve and go malnourished?
    ask any ER doctor or inner city clinician--obesity is the major nourishment issue facing our poor

    one of the main differences between the USA and third world nations.

    in the USA the poor are fatter than the rich.



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    Re: Senate Cuts Food Stamp Funds; Leaves Oil and Gas Subsidies Intact

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    ask any ER doctor or inner city clinician--obesity is the major nourishment issue facing our poor

    one of the main differences between the USA and third world nations.

    in the USA the poor are fatter than the rich.
    One can be obese and malnourished at the same time. Regardless, most cheap items are high in fat. Increasing food stamps and giving incentives to buy healthy foods would be great. A lot of fattening and high cal foods are poor in vitamin and mineral content. Junk food and other things are nothing but pure calories and no nourishment. Our poor are fat because our cheapest food is also the most fattening.
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    Re: Senate Cuts Food Stamp Funds; Leaves Oil and Gas Subsidies Intact

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    One can be obese and malnourished at the same time. Regardless, most cheap items are high in fat. Increasing food stamps and giving incentives to buy healthy foods would be great. A lot of fattening and high cal foods are poor in vitamin and mineral content. Junk food and other things are nothing but pure calories and no nourishment. Our poor are fat because our cheapest food is also the most fattening.
    true to some extent

    but you must also note the mindset

    instant gratification is often the mindset of the poor. THose who look forward to being healthy in their old age tend to be those who eat intelligently. they also tend to be the people who don't end up on foodstamps. Its an intrinsic flaw in many cases as to why the poor are fat



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    Re: Senate Cuts Food Stamp Funds; Leaves Oil and Gas Subsidies Intact

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    true to some extent


    instant gratification is often the mindset of the poor. THose who look forward to being healthy in their old age tend to be those who eat intelligently. they also tend to be the people who don't end up on foodstamps. Its an intrinsic flaw in many cases as to why the poor are fat
    I was raised poor, I'm still poor, and my family has always been poor. My dad has worked his ass off to provide for us. I work 2 jobs, my father works 2 jobs, and my mother works 2 jobs. As a kid we didn't have money for food sometimes, and my grandparents would buy us groceries. Sure, a small amount of poor people do live on government checks and have no desire to work. But from my experienced, us poor people are often times the hardest workers.

    On another note, I think the children and the mindset of many rich people is instant gratification. They use their money to get what they want, when they want it. They treat people like dirt and judge based on financial status. My university is a private school. I can only attend here because I have an academic scholarship, student loans, and federal and state aid. There are a lot of rich kids that go to my school where mommy and daddy pay all their bills. They don't work, and they don't give a crap about their grades or education. It ticks me off to see them go through school acting like a dunce and not giving two cents about it. I work my ass off in school to keep my GPA above a 3.0 in order to keep my scholarship. I think the rich and spoiled have a far worse mindset, while the majority of the poor are harder workers and truly value a dollar.
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    Re: Senate Cuts Food Stamp Funds; Leaves Oil and Gas Subsidies Intact

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I was raised poor, I'm still poor, and my family has always been poor. My dad has worked his ass off to provide for us. I work 2 jobs, my father works 2 jobs, and my mother works 2 jobs. As a kid we didn't have money for food sometimes, and my grandparents would buy us groceries. Sure, a small amount of poor people do live on government checks and have no desire to work. But from my experienced, us poor people are often times the hardest workers.

    On another note, I think the children and the mindset of many rich people is instant gratification. They use their money to get what they want, when they want it. They treat people like dirt and judge based on financial status. My university is a private school. I can only attend here because I have an academic scholarship, student loans, and federal and state aid. There are a lot of rich kids that go to my school where mommy and daddy pay all their bills. They don't work, and they don't give a crap about their grades or education. It ticks me off to see them go through school acting like a dunce and not giving two cents about it. I work my ass off in school to keep my GPA above a 3.0 in order to keep my scholarship. I think the rich and spoiled have a far worse mindset, while the majority of the poor are harder workers and truly value a dollar.
    I agree with some and disagree with much. Old money tends to treat people well. If you ever get a chance to meet a secret service agent who worked in both the first Bush whitehouse (old old money) and the clinton whitehouse (new money) ask them how they were treated. Mrs. Bush was legendary for treating the agents, housekeepers etc as family. HIllary treated them as the help. Hillary had a long time WH steward fired for sending Mrs Bush a birthday card.

    old money doesn't have to prove they are different. New money often does. Old money doesn't mistreat waitresses or cab drivers.

    I used to live with a waitress many years ago. She said the old money always tipped her well, the noveau riche treated her like ****, hit on her even tried to grab her under her skirt.

    so I agree with part of what you say

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    Re: Senate Cuts Food Stamp Funds; Leaves Oil and Gas Subsidies Intact

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    And I earned that right, by volunteering my time, and risking my life for you and the country. PS(I don't get any Vet benefits, but I qualify for them, maybe I'll use my GI Bill this Spring, but I PAID FOR THAT).

    Big difference between Vet Programs and Charities. Dishonest people like you should be shamed and mocked by all for such commentary.
    It's fun to touch nerves because then people get nasty. What war btw? Anyways I guess I should be ashamed of myself but I'm not because when people like you spit on the poor for just being poor I can have no respect for that.
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    Re: Senate Cuts Food Stamp Funds; Leaves Oil and Gas Subsidies Intact

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    @MrVicchio have you ever had to go to a church or charity for food? Of course not you have the biggest charity of all, the US government thanking you over and over for being a vet.
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    Re: Senate Cuts Food Stamp Funds; Leaves Oil and Gas Subsidies Intact

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    I don't trust CEO's to put their own money into charities, and give to the poor. What do businessmen care about? Their bottom line, and if they got tax cuts do you really believe they would give that money to the poor, or just stuff their pockets with it? I'm guessing the latter. I think the whole welfare system needs to be reformed, but I'll stick with welfare than having to rely on private charity.
    Also it isn't that many CEO's are bad when it comes to donating to charities. The heirs and heiresses are worse and they are the majority shareholders thus making them the owners. I'll use the Walton family as an example. The walton heirs and heiress like the five of them are worth over or close to a hundred billion dollars. The average employee of wal-mart gets a yearly salary of 19,000 and they have this medical fund to help out Wal-mart employees with their medical bills. Well when it comes down to donating money the waltons gave a total of $5,000 dollars a year to the fund. When they could have given so much more. But as you can see many rich people do not care for others especially the heirs that make up the majority of rich people.

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    Re: Senate Cuts Food Stamp Funds; Leaves Oil and Gas Subsidies Intact

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I was raised poor, I'm still poor, and my family has always been poor. My dad has worked his ass off to provide for us. I work 2 jobs, my father works 2 jobs, and my mother works 2 jobs. As a kid we didn't have money for food sometimes, and my grandparents would buy us groceries. Sure, a small amount of poor people do live on government checks and have no desire to work. But from my experienced, us poor people are often times the hardest workers.

    On another note, I think the children and the mindset of many rich people is instant gratification. They use their money to get what they want, when they want it. They treat people like dirt and judge based on financial status. My university is a private school. I can only attend here because I have an academic scholarship, student loans, and federal and state aid. There are a lot of rich kids that go to my school where mommy and daddy pay all their bills. They don't work, and they don't give a crap about their grades or education. It ticks me off to see them go through school acting like a dunce and not giving two cents about it. I work my ass off in school to keep my GPA above a 3.0 in order to keep my scholarship. I think the rich and spoiled have a far worse mindset, while the majority of the poor are harder workers and truly value a dollar.
    Yeah you are so poor that you are using a computer with wireless and broadband.

    I am totally against what you said you lost me when you said the poor are the hardest working people. That is far from true, if they were then you wouldn't need money for assistance. But seriously why do you care on the way other act? I am one of those rich kids whose parents are paying for his education and I don't care to have a C GPA. I don't know what my GPA is but I am certainly not failing. Life is hard get used to it, you don't think that just because some kids have their bills covered by their parents means they don't have it tough?! There is so much out there that causes suffering. But what can you do? You can have a better outlook on life. So when you are a rich parent you will pay for you kids university. If you don't do that that would just be mean and evil of you.

    I do agree though that many poor people do value the dollar more than rich people. But the children of rich people when they start to work they start to realize how valuable a dollar really is. But many times these kids either end up bitter and mean like my brother. My brother was earning over $125,000 a year working as a Chem. engineer. And he has zero debt because my parents paid for his school. What you said was nothing more than a drama whore who can't handle the real world.

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    Re: Senate Cuts Food Stamp Funds; Leaves Oil and Gas Subsidies Intact

    Buffet gave away more money than everyone in DP combined will ever see.

    To say that CEOs or the rich are socially irresponsible is to be narrow-minded beyond belief.

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