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    Re: Senate Cuts Food Stamp Funds; Leaves Oil and Gas Subsidies Intact

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    My Dad's church has a food-bank of sorts, as well as a free walking clinic - and because *everything* is provided by donation (everything from bandaids to the Dr's time, to bags of groceries and toilet paper) - they have very scare resources to actually go around.

    Charity is great - but it doesn't go as far as you think.
    if people weren't paying half of their incomes to the taxman they probably would give alot more



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    Re: Senate Cuts Food Stamp Funds; Leaves Oil and Gas Subsidies Intact

    It's kind of like withholding tax..... if you had to go up to a window each month and cash your check, then give the government 30 percent of it, there would be a revolution the next month.

    If you had to go hat in hand to a church or a soup kitchen to eat, you would get off your ass and take the first job you could find. You'd spend 12+ hours a day looking for work and there would be no such thing as a job being beneath you.

    Be thankful that we have vets..... they are the ones that bought you the right to shoot your mouth off, most of the time with their blood.... ass hole.
    Well this guy sure as hell didn't pay with his blood, he's sitting on his ass right now bitching about the disfortunate using his tax dollars. Your logic implies that everyone is lazy and just ****ing loves to sit around and collect big fat checks, and take advantage of the government when that isn't the case.

    People aren't going to soup kitchens and churches to feed their kids. I have been in bad situations and had to go to churches and such for food and this is the gist of what you normally get; some cheap donuts, pizzas, ramen, some random weird canned goods, your occasional fruit and vegetable. For me that is great, that's awesome I can make plenty out of that for a few days but for a family, are they supposed to feed their kids donuts and ramen?
    "We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan

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    Re: Senate Cuts Food Stamp Funds; Leaves Oil and Gas Subsidies Intact

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    Well this guy sure as hell didn't pay with his blood, he's sitting on his ass right now bitching about the disfortunate using his tax dollars. Your logic implies that everyone is lazy and just ****ing loves to sit around and collect big fat checks, and take advantage of the government when that isn't the case.

    People aren't going to soup kitchens and churches to feed their kids. I have been in bad situations and had to go to churches and such for food and this is the gist of what you normally get; some cheap donuts, pizzas, ramen, some random weird canned goods, your occasional fruit and vegetable. For me that is great, that's awesome I can make plenty out of that for a few days but for a family, are they supposed to feed their kids donuts and ramen?
    why are so many people who cannot feed themselves having so many kids? seriously? I remember reading a book about Carlos Hathcock, the famous marine sniper. In that book he noted the army strongly discouraged enlisting men marrying until they made at least staff sargent because that level of pay was enough to support a wife and a kid or two.

    why do people who do not have steady employment breed so often?



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    Re: Senate Cuts Food Stamp Funds; Leaves Oil and Gas Subsidies Intact

    Well would you rather they get an abortion...aaaaand there is the quagmire of being a conservative republican.

    In all seriousness though, **** happens, be it people didn't realize it would happen, they lose their job and are having trouble finding work, etc. Are you suggesting if an average joe loses his job at the Ford plant he was working at for 10 years and all of a sudden he has no choice but to go on food stamps to feed his family then maybe he should give up his kids for adoption?
    "We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan

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    Re: Senate Cuts Food Stamp Funds; Leaves Oil and Gas Subsidies Intact

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    Well would you rather they get an abortion...aaaaand there is the quagmire of being a conservative republican.

    In all seriousness though, **** happens, be it people didn't realize it would happen, they lose their job and are having trouble finding work, etc. Are you suggesting if an average joe loses his job at the Ford plant he was working at for 10 years and all of a sudden he has no choice but to go on food stamps to feed his family then maybe he should give up his kids for adoption?
    not only has my family given six figures to Planned Parenthood, my late mother served on the board for decades and I was a guard at a clinic fighting off the idiot "christians" screaming "Whore" and Baby Killer at the women going in-including those who were there just for pap smears or STD check ups

    and I understand the point about someone who loses a job but that doesn't explain the millions being born to people who never had a job and don't plan on getting one



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    Re: Senate Cuts Food Stamp Funds; Leaves Oil and Gas Subsidies Intact

    I don't know if there are millions, but that's very true. Charity is great, and I think everyone should donate what they can, however many Americans are out of reach of charities, or the well runs dry so to speak in some cases. I would be totally for people having to take test to make sure they aren't idiots or something before they could even reproduce..if such a thing could exist...
    "We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan

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    Re: Senate Cuts Food Stamp Funds; Leaves Oil and Gas Subsidies Intact

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    It says they are voting on it, I doubt such cuts would pass especially right now. Also are they high? Food prices definitely are going up. So I guess because they aren't going up as much as they thought though, kids should have to eat ramen noodles instead of brown rice until daddy gets a new job? I think if they want to save money in the long run, what they should do is be more careful about whom they give food stamps to, but punishing poor families because of a few bad seeds is a very greedy, and bad idea.
    Actually, the story indicated that food prices had deflated, which means decreased. It doesn't mean that they increased at lower levels than expected. While I can not confirm this, I have noticed the trend of decreasing food prices at the grocery stores I frequent.
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    Re: Senate Cuts Food Stamp Funds; Leaves Oil and Gas Subsidies Intact

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    @MrVicchio have you ever had to go to a church or charity for food? Of course not you have the biggest charity of all, the US government thanking you over and over for being a vet.
    And I earned that right, by volunteering my time, and risking my life for you and the country. PS(I don't get any Vet benefits, but I qualify for them, maybe I'll use my GI Bill this Spring, but I PAID FOR THAT).

    Big difference between Vet Programs and Charities. Dishonest people like you should be shamed and mocked by all for such commentary.
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    Re: Senate Cuts Food Stamp Funds; Leaves Oil and Gas Subsidies Intact

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    Who is in the news this week (two dems for ethical violations). I say, get rid of them all and start over. Pretty PC in doing that.
    I am all about kicking corrupt politicans out of Washington. Apparently, the biggots in the Congressional Black Caucus are a starting point. All of the republicans that are nothing but mouthpieces for their big business masters are the next step.

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    Re: Senate Cuts Food Stamp Funds; Leaves Oil and Gas Subsidies Intact

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    I say get rid of food stamps entirely. Think of all the money we could save.
    I think we should include more people into the food stamp program, especially during economic bad times. Would you rather have people starve and go malnourished?
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