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    Re: EPA to Crack Down on Farm Dust

    Quote Originally Posted by Anarcho-fascist View Post
    What do you think caused the dustbowl? How is it possible that regulations couldn't have mitigated it?
    You implied that regulations could have prevented the disaster, The burden of proof is on to show how they could have.
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    Re: EPA to Crack Down on Farm Dust

    I personally don't see a problem here. It is a little silly that they complain about dust though, however if there is a genuine safety concern such as there is in coal towns then something needs to be done to help prevent dust from kicking up. Maybe use a bunch of these?

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    Re: EPA to Crack Down on Farm Dust

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Of course you find this suggestion, to disband the EPA to be extreme, you think Gov't is the protector and arbitor of all that is good. The EPA needs to be disbanded, and new entity, focused on common sense oversight should take it's place.
    Then what do you suggest we have in place for environmental regulation?

    Keep in mind, it's EPA regulations and enforcement that keep your water, air, and land clean.
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    Re: EPA to Crack Down on Farm Dust

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    Then what do you suggest we have in place for environmental regulation?

    Keep in mind, it's EPA regulations and enforcement that keep your water, air, and land clean.
    Oh nothing, I believe in dirty air, water and land!

    Of course, you didn't read what I said, or you'd have seen...

    A NEW ENTITY FOCUSED ON COMMON SENSE OVERSIGHT.

    Not, regulate the **** out of everything as the EPA is headed now. The entire Fed Gov't is out of hand, and people like you just "dur dur dur, they keep everything clean and safe! dur dur dur".

    At what cost? At what point does the mission of keeping things "clean" become too much? For you? Apparently no measure is too severe, no regulation too onerous, and no idea too stupid to support.
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: EPA to Crack Down on Farm Dust

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Oh nothing, I believe in dirty air, water and land!

    Of course, you didn't read what I said, or you'd have seen...

    A NEW ENTITY FOCUSED ON COMMON SENSE OVERSIGHT.
    Such as?

    Not, regulate the **** out of everything as the EPA is headed now. The entire Fed Gov't is out of hand, and people like you just "dur dur dur, they keep everything clean and safe! dur dur dur".

    At what cost? At what point does the mission of keeping things "clean" become too much? For you? Apparently no measure is too severe, no regulation too onerous, and no idea too stupid to support.
    You are getting very seriously un-zen about something that's basically an idea someone threw out at a meeting. If it becomes regulation, then I'll be first in line asking the EPA to justify the decision. Until that time, you need to seriously switch to decaf.

    The military wanted to develop a "gay bomb" and the idea was scrapped. Why? Because it was a crappy idea.

    If we scrapped every organization for coming up with one bad idea, we'd all be Anarchists.
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    Re: EPA to Crack Down on Farm Dust

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    Disband the EPA? I cant even begin to articulate how much of an over-reaction that is.
    Flying off the handle at every suggestion that comes across a desk is a waste of energy.

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    Re: EPA to Crack Down on Farm Dust

    Well, of course they should be doing this.

    I mean, its not like we have other agencies in the government completely and fully ignoring federal law and refusing to enforce it by claiming they "can't handle the load" that could use money funneled out of an agency whose worrying about such things as taking a "crack down on dust" into an agency that seemingly can't be bothered to enforce federal law.

    So I mean, of course this is great.

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    Re: EPA to Crack Down on Farm Dust

    Quote Originally Posted by other View Post
    You implied that regulations could have prevented the disaster, The burden of proof is on to show how they could have.
    If the government had required that farmers in high risk area use soil conservation techniques before the dust bowl began then much of the soil that blew away would've stayed where it was.

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    Re: EPA to Crack Down on Farm Dust

    Quote Originally Posted by Anarcho-fascist View Post
    If the government had required that farmers in high risk area use soil conservation techniques before the dust bowl began then much of the soil that blew away would've stayed where it was.
    How is that possible? If it wasn't for the dust bowl, farmers wouldn't even have knowledge about crop rotation.
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    Re: EPA to Crack Down on Farm Dust

    Quote Originally Posted by Goof Noodle View Post
    How is that possible? If it wasn't for the dust bowl, farmers wouldn't even have knowledge about crop rotation.
    Nah, been doing it for thousands of years.
    "We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan

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