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    A Turning Point For Democrats?

    Excerpted from “A Turning Point For Democrats? IT'S TOO EARLY TO SAY FOR SURE, BUT IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THE REPUBLICAN WAVE HAS SUBSIDED.” by Charlie Cook, The National Journal Magazine, Saturday, July 31, 2010
    For the weeks of July 12-18 and July 19-25, the Gallup Organization's weekly aggregation of daily tracking polls showed Democrats ahead among all registered voters on the generic congressional ballot test question by 6 points (49 percent to 43 percent) and 4 points (48 percent to 44 percent), respectively. …

    Gallup noted that this was the first time that either party has held an advantage of this size for two consecutive weeks. In the 21 weeks that Gallup has asked the generic ballot test question this year, the two parties have averaged a tie. …

    What we are looking for is whether either party breaks out of that range [49 percent to 43 percent] and begins to consistently record an advantage, with "consistently" certainly defined as more than two weeks in a row. …

    For now, people will have to just sit tight, wait for next week's Gallup release, and watch how other reputable pollsters weigh in.
    The headline asks the question, is this a turning point for Democrats? Well, is it, punk? … I mean … What do you think, a turning point?

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    Excerpted from “Democrats Maintain Advantage on Generic Ballot, 48% to 44%; Republicans continue to be more enthusiastic about voting” by Frank Newport, GALLUP, July 26, 2010
    Democrats have a 48% to 44% advantage for the week of July 19-25 in Gallup tracking of registered voters' preferences for the 2010 congressional elections. This marks the second straight week in which Democrats have held an edge of at least four percentage points.

    Although Republicans have moved to a four-point or higher advantage on three separate occasions, this is the first time either party has held an advantage of that size for two consecutive weeks. Republicans and Democrats have been tied on average across the 21 weeks of Gallup's tracking.

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    Re: A Turning Point For Democrats?

    I think so. Democrats are rolling out their new “The Republican Tea Party Contract on America” reminding Americans about failed Bush-era initiatives (e.g., privatizing Social Security) and radical Tea Party proposals (e.g., ending Medicare). Combined with the Republicans resistance to further government economic stimulation and unemployment compensation extensions while pushing for budget busting tax extenders for the rich, Americans see the Republicans have nothing good to offer.

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    Excerpted from “DNC plan tries to tie Republican Party to fringe 'tea party' elements” By Philip Rucker, Washington Post Staff Writer, The Washington Post, Wednesday, July 28, 2010; 6:27 PM
    Among the items are some that are supported by the Republican congressional leadership, such as repealing the health-care overhaul and extending Bush-era tax cuts. But many of the items -- including ending Medicare, repealing the 17th Amendment that provides for the direct election of senators, and abolishing the departments of Education and Energy and the Environmental Protection Agency -- have only been endorsed by select candidates or lawmakers not part of the party leadership.
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    Re: A Turning Point For Democrats?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    The headline asks the question, is this a turning point for Democrats? Well, is it, punk? … I mean … What do you think, a turning point?

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    Yes. The American people are too smart to buy into a party that has no ideas other than just say "no". Just say "no" can be a winner, but only if you really have a clear and coherent message, which the Republicans lack. Moreover, the Republicans have been substantially taken over by a radical wing, which plays well inside of the party, but will not win the hearts and minds of the independents, who decide elections. That said, the opposition party always gains seats in the off-year elections, as they will this year, but I doubt either house changes is color

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    Re: A Turning Point For Democrats?

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Yes. The American people are too smart to buy into a party that has no ideas other than just say "no". Just say "no" can be a winner, but only if you really have a clear and coherent message, which the Republicans lack. Moreover, the Republicans have been substantially taken over by a radical wing, which plays well inside of the party, but will not win the hearts and minds of the independents, who decide elections. That said, the opposition party always gains seats in the off-year elections, as they will this year, but I doubt either house changes is color
    I think the more likely reality is that the American people are getting tired of a party that says, "yes", to everything, no matter how stupid and counter productive it may be.
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    Re: A Turning Point For Democrats?

    Politics are cyclical by nature. When the People start losing confidence in one side's ability to govern on their behalf they naturally turn to the other party. While some believe this is the case in the current political atmosphere, the reality is the very problems that Republicans are now claiming are important issues this nation faces, the Democrat party is the party trying to do something about it. Republicans may not like how things are getting done, but they had their chance to do something about health care, Medicare cost, immigration reform, finance reform, campaign finance reform, tax reform, etc., etc., but they did nothing except maintain the status quo.

    The People aren't stupid. I'm sure that once folks are able to filter out the "noise" and get the facts for them instead of relying on information exclusively from one side of the political spectrum or the other they'll make the right decision come November.

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    Re: A Turning Point For Democrats?

    Dems Face Ethical Trials as November Elections Loom

    As Rep. Maxine Waters and Rep. Charlie Rangel face high-profile ethics trials, the midterm election outlook for Democrats becomes bleak as they battle to keep control of the House.


    Chappy, please tell us what Obama has done that has made this country better economically and safer because I cannot find anything in 18 months.

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    Re: A Turning Point For Democrats?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I think the more likely reality is that the American people are getting tired of a party that says, "yes", to everything, no matter how stupid and counter productive it may be.
    That was actually a pretty good counterpoint, apdst.
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    Re: A Turning Point For Democrats?

    Chappy, interesting that I have seen nothing from you that offers any reason to re-elect Democrats unless you believe 16 million unemployed Americans, massive growth in the size of the govt, 3 trillion added to the debt, implementation of a healthcare program that does nothing to improve the quality of or increase the quantity of healthcare, and create greater dependence on the govt. is reason to vote Democratic.

    Stop buying the rhetoric and actually offer something of substance.

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    Re: A Turning Point For Democrats?

    A turning point? Are you kidding? One polling source, Gallup, shows a slight up for the Dem's.

    HOLY HELLS REPUBLICANS!!! It's ALL OVER!!!

    Puh-LEASE. Spare us the DNC Talking point that this article is. I'll tell you what this article was, and is. It was written to try, once again, to raise the spirits of the Dem Voter. There has been no positive momentum for the Dems since their high about 0-3 Months since Obama's election. The Dem's are pushing for higher taxes, cap and trade, greater spending, more regulation as reasons to vote for them. The results of the last, really 4 years of the Dem's holding the House and Senate have been economic stagnation and recession, high unemployment and the passing of unpopular life altering legislation. The FinReg and Obamacare. Both hang as albatross around their necks.

    The anti-incumbent sentiment in the country has in no way diminished. There is buyers remorse for many that were so excited to elect a "Black man" President. He has been by all measures, an utter failure as a leader, with the exception that he DID get some big legislation through. That such will sink his part in 2010 and will help kick him out of the WH in 2012 makes one have to alter the term "success". His Administration has been marred by poor judgment, badly selected advisors (Van Jones for example), racial failings, incomeptence and a level of aloofness towards the people that staggers the mind. How many vactions, big parties at the WH, golf outings has he been apart of to this point?

    Let's not forget the level of Congressional Approval is at an all time low. Nancy P. will hold that gavel only a short while longer, the Dem's will be out big in 2010, and O goes in 2012.

    The turning point for the Dem's came when they elected Obama, it's been downhill fast eversince.
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    Re: A Turning Point For Democrats?

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    A turning point? Are you kidding? One polling source, Gallup, shows a slight up for the Dem's.

    HOLY HELLS REPUBLICANS!!! It's ALL OVER!!!

    Puh-LEASE. Spare us the DNC Talking point that this article is. I'll tell you what this article was, and is. It was written to try, once again, to raise the spirits of the Dem Voter. There has been no positive momentum for the Dems since their high about 0-3 Months since Obama's election. The Dem's are pushing for higher taxes, cap and trade, greater spending, more regulation as reasons to vote for them. The results of the last, really 4 years of the Dem's holding the House and Senate have been economic stagnation and recession, high unemployment and the passing of unpopular life altering legislation. The FinReg and Obamacare. Both hang as albatross around their necks.

    The anti-incumbent sentiment in the country has in no way diminished. There is buyers remorse for many that were so excited to elect a "Black man" President. He has been by all measures, an utter failure as a leader, with the exception that he DID get some big legislation through. That such will sink his part in 2010 and will help kick him out of the WH in 2012 makes one have to alter the term "success". His Administration has been marred by poor judgment, badly selected advisors (Van Jones for example), racial failings, incomeptence and a level of aloofness towards the people that staggers the mind. How many vactions, big parties at the WH, golf outings has he been apart of to this point?

    Let's not forget the level of Congressional Approval is at an all time low. Nancy P. will hold that gavel only a short while longer, the Dem's will be out big in 2010, and O goes in 2012.

    The turning point for the Dem's came when they elected Obama, it's been downhill fast eversince.
    better put the kool aid down, and take a step back....your post reeks of wishful thinking at this point....still several months to mid terms, and alot can happen in that time....

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