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    Re: A Turning Point For Democrats?

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    have you ever considered the possibility, that maybe it is you that has been 'brainwashed'?
    Apparently so has BEA.gov, BLS.gov, and the U.S. Treasury checkbook.

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    Re: A Turning Point For Democrats?

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    have you ever considered the possibility, that maybe it is you that has been 'brainwashed'?
    Randel, you are the one brainwashed by an ideology that has failed in every sense of the word yet you ignore it. "Your" President has total control of the economic agenda yet continues to blame Bush. "Your" President was part of the Congress that helped create this mess and signed off on all that "Bush spending" yet for some reason it remains Bush's fault and according to you I could be brainwashed? do you realize that how foolish you sound when the facts prove which of us is really brainwased?

    You don't seem to get it, I am NOT a Democrat or a Republican, I am a conservative. I don't buy what I am told like you, I do the research to verify the rhetoric and when I do that research I find that the substance doesn't match the Obama rhetoric. He uses terms like "saved" jobs, "bringing us back from the brink", and "inherited" which are all words to divert from the mess he is creating. BLS doesn't have a chart for saved jobs but it does have a chart for labor force, unemployment, and employment. The U.S. Treasury doesn't have a chart for inherited deficits but does have a chart for actual deficits created and the make up of spending. The Bureau of Economic Analysis doesn't have a chart showing the brink but does have a chart showing economic growth and where growth or deficits occur.

    When I verify the Obama rhetoric I find nothing but lies in that rhetoric and yet you and others believe what you are told. In order for Obama to succeed people like you need to ignore actual facts and continue to buy the rhetoric. Millions and millions of Americans are finding out each day that Obama rhetoric is in conflict with the facts and thus these people are waking up. the question is when will you wake up?

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    Re: A Turning Point For Democrats?

    You're probably on to something Conservative but it should be pointed out that if you exchange the words "Bush's fault" with "Clinton's fault" your post would read much like the left leaning posts we have had to endure during the 8 years of Bush's dismal failures, that lead us to where we are today, IMO. Finger pointing seems to be a trait that both sides share in common.

    So, actually, it's Clinton's fault.

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    Re: A Turning Point For Democrats?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    You're probably on to something Conservative but it should be pointed out that if you exchange the words "Bush's fault" with "Clinton's fault" your post would read much like the left leaning posts we have had to endure during the 8 years of Bush's dismal failures, that lead us to where we are today, IMO. Finger pointing seems to be a trait that both sides share in common.

    So, actually, it's Clinton's fault.
    I don't recall that Bush blamed Clinton for the mess he inherited nor speech after speech with that rhetoric in it. Most people simply do not understand responsibility and the fact is we hire a President to accept responsibility and not blame others at every turn. Obama has had total control over the entire Legislative ane Executive Branches of govt. and continues to blame Bush who from 2007 had Democrats control the legislative branch. Bush did not create the problem we are in today but the fact is we hired Obama to fix it, not continue to blame Bush and ignore Congressional involvement. Obama has failed miserably.

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    Re: A Turning Point For Democrats?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Hey, I hear ya man. Can't say that I disagree. But you tell 16 million people, or give them the impression that the party has a "let 'em eat cake" attitude, vs. the other party that wants to keep sending them checks, who do you think they are gonna vote for?

    Man, I'm just sayin'. I am a realist. Sometimes, that kinda sucks. It ain't always the way I'd like to see things go. But I just love being right most of the time. Sticking with reality helps me to that end.



    Add another nail to the GOP coffin. Oy vey....

    Those patriotic Republicans have been more than happy to use 9/11 victims and first responders as political props for years, but when it comes down to actually doing something for them, the GOP strategy of obstructing the Democrats' agenda is more important.

    Thursday night, the House brought up, under suspension of the rules, the James Zadroga 9/11 Health and Compensation Act, a bill that would have provided up to $7.4 billion in aid to the survivors of 9/11, including all the first responders who breathed in all manner of toxins in the aftermath of the attacks. Under this procedure, a two-thirds vote is required. All but twelve Republicans, joined by four blue dog Democrats, voted against the "procedure" denying a two-thirds vote for this bill. <snip>
    House Republicans block aid to 9/11 victims and first responders - Blog For Arizona

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    Re: A Turning Point For Democrats?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Add another nail to the GOP coffin. Oy vey....

    Those patriotic Republicans have been more than happy to use 9/11 victims and first responders as political props for years, but when it comes down to actually doing something for them, the GOP strategy of obstructing the Democrats' agenda is more important.

    Thursday night, the House brought up, under suspension of the rules, the James Zadroga 9/11 Health and Compensation Act, a bill that would have provided up to $7.4 billion in aid to the survivors of 9/11, including all the first responders who breathed in all manner of toxins in the aftermath of the attacks. Under this procedure, a two-thirds vote is required. All but twelve Republicans, joined by four blue dog Democrats, voted against the "procedure" denying a two-thirds vote for this bill. <snip>
    House Republicans block aid to 9/11 victims and first responders - Blog For Arizona
    Look again the media is distorting what is going on here. The Democrats are not allowing the GOP to offer amendments to the bill and it really has nothing to do with healthcare for those affected by 9/11. How many billions of dollars went to the victims of 9/11?

    This is nothing more than a political game being played again by Democrats to try and lessen the blow of a November loss. Why did this bill require 2/3rds support rather than the normal simple majority per House rules? this is all politics just like the unemployment insurance extension was. Read the entire article and not just the headlines. find out what the other side is saying. This just goes to show there is no compromise with a liberal.

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    Re: A Turning Point For Democrats?

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I don't recall that Bush blamed Clinton for the mess he inherited
    Hilarious....LOL....You mean the surplus and a country at peace that GWB inherited?

    Quote Originally Posted by conservative
    The fact is we hire a President to accept responsibility..... Bush did not create the problem we are in today....
    Oh....the irony in this post.....keep dreamin con.....keep dreaming....
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    Re: A Turning Point For Democrats?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Hilarious....LOL....You mean the surplus and a country at peace that GWB inherited?



    Oh....the irony in this post.....keep dreamin con.....keep dreaming....
    What surplus? You don't understand the U.S. Treasury Data, I see. Not surprising from an Obama supporter. A lot of posts on that subject but you ignore them. Interesting how Bush alone created the problem yet Obama with total control of the govt. cannot get us out of it. That is liberal logic.

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    Re: A Turning Point For Democrats?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    I think so. Democrats are rolling out their new “The Republican Tea Party Contract on America” reminding Americans about failed Bush-era initiatives (e.g., privatizing Social Security) and radical Tea Party proposals (e.g., ending Medicare). Combined with the Republicans resistance to further government economic stimulation and unemployment compensation extensions while pushing for budget busting tax extenders for the rich, Americans see the Republicans have nothing good to offer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Yes. The American people are too smart to buy into a party that has no ideas other than just say "no". Just say "no" can be a winner, but only if you really have a clear and coherent message, which the Republicans lack. Moreover, the Republicans have been substantially taken over by a radical wing, which plays well inside of the party, but will not win the hearts and minds of the independents, who decide elections. That said, the opposition party always gains seats in the off-year elections, as they will this year, but I doubt either house changes is color



    Republicans have no ideas!

    Yeah, and they also have a bunch of really bad ideas!


    ....cpwill waits for someone to do the math...


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    Re: A Turning Point For Democrats?

    I'd like to see the sample size percentage. Other than Rassmusen, all the others over sample Democrats by a good margin.


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