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    Re: A Turning Point For Democrats?

    FilmFestGuy;1058891017]Let's see - since his inauguration, the stock market is up from 7929 to 10,465 or an increase of nearly 32%.
    So, let's see, when it suits you the stock market is a barometer of how good the economy is? What affect do you believe 16 million unemployed Americans has on corporate expenses thus profits?Where you equally as excited when Bush had a 14000 stock market?


    The job creation index is at 11 now - it was at -1 when Obama took office: Gallup Daily: Economic Indexes
    There are 7 million less employed today than when Obama took office, bls.gov and you think that is a success? 16 million unemployed or an increase of over 4 million since the stimulus plan took effect and that is a success to you?

    Things are far from perfect; but everyone who is reasonable knows that the recovery from this collapse is going to take quite some time - years to get anywhere near normal. In fact, odds are "Normal" is never coming back.
    A collapse that apparently Bush created all by himself? Tell us why taxpayers fund Congressional Representatives if it is the President that creates all legislation and unilaterally implements economic policy? Do you realize, probably don't care, but the Democrats controlled Congress and helped get us into this recession. Now with the same Congress and a Democrat empty suit in the WH they have made things worse, higher debt and higher unemployment. Where is your outrage?

    The only way to spark the economy is to start thinking dynamically. That's where Obama has slipped up, I think.
    Obama doesn't understand the economy nor do his book smart, street stupid Ivy League educated advisors. We have a public sector economy that is being destroyed and the results speak volumes, but Obama supporters never really cared about results.

    The stimulus should have been spent on building new and improved infrastructure upon which private industry could thrive and grow. For instance, the government invented ARPAnet, which eventually became the internet, which eventually led to hugely successful industries that employ millions of Americans. We should be creating a new power grid that supports both old energy and new energy. We should be spending out way out of this in a much smarter manner than we are. On that, I agree.
    The stimulus plan was designed to be spent on shovel ready projects but instead has been spent to bail out unions and other Democrat constituent groups. Jobs saved or created cannot be quantified but unemployment can.

    But things are better now than they were in 2008, it's just going to take several more years for them to get better. Company profits are up and they're hoarding cash. We must incentivise them into spending it in ways that create job growth and spur demand. All I see from Republicans are policies that will continue to support them hoarding their cash and continuing the constant cycle of money spiraling ever upward to the top 1-10% wealthiest Americans that began in earnest in the early 2000s. Hoarding harms the nation. I'm not against the wealthy being wealthy - but tax policy should reward hiring and investment and should punish hoarding by taxing interest on cash holdings at a rate that basically makes the interest near negative. This will force the "trickle down" that Conservatives seem to so adore.
    After spending over a trillion dollars, taking over GM/Chrysler shouldn't things be better. Companies are hoarding cash because they have lower expenses now due to fewer workers thus higher profits and a fear of higher corporate taxes as well as healthcare costs.

    We live in a free enterprise, capitalistic economy that Obama doesn't understand. The results speak for themselves.

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    Re: A Turning Point For Democrats?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    Who knew Phyllis Schlafly was still alive? Too funny. You didn't even bother to quote anything from her opinion hit job. It's pathetic.
    Why don't you check out the other sites that was posted on. I picked the first one. Like all liberals you ignore the content to attack the messenger. Unfortunately for you there are too many messengers to attack.

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    Re: A Turning Point For Democrats?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    Here is the thing about this, Mitch McConell the senator from my home state can't even keep his own party in check, instead of getting the golden boy he wanted, he was handed Rand Paul, a total nut who hasn't even been in the state for over 5 years. His competitor, and ultimately who will likely take Jim Bunning's seat is current Attorney General of Kentucky Jack Conway (D).

    Then you have that crazy lady in Nevada going up against Reid. Then you have the fact that anybody that Half-Term Palin promotes will immediately polarize themselves even amongst other conservative voters. The hilarious part about this is, Republicans conveniently have a plan later this year when (they think) they will win some more seats.

    How could anyone vote for these people when they intentionally sit around with their thumbs in their ass until they get their way? If more Democrats get rough and angry like Anthony Wiener, they should have no problems at all.

    Anthony Wiener? LOL, that guy is one of the biggest socialists in the country and a true nutjob yet he is a hero to you? Think that gives you credibility? stop buying the rhetoric, the House of Representatives has a huge advantage to the Democrats yet Wiener attacks Republicans. Democrats can pass whatever they want and don't need a single Republican vote yet you buy what Wiener says. That just goes to show how out of touch with reality Obama supporters are. Some people should really be disqualified from voting.

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    Re: A Turning Point For Democrats?

    Well this is a perfect example of why Congress has such a low approval rating. They did the 2/3s thing because Republicans were just going to keep stalling, Wiener believed the King guy would actually have been able to convince his Republican buddies to vote on helping people that helped in 9/11, instead they didn't because it would have probably cut into their pals profits.

    Republicans did what Republicans will constantly do; they overcomplicated a very straight forward vote for their own party, and if you really think that Republicans come out looking like they are on top on this one then well, wow.

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    Re: A Turning Point For Democrats?

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Randel, back at it, I see, one line comments that actually say nothing. All I ever see from you are diversions from the Obama agenda. Tell us what Obama has done that has made this country economically better and also safer. As pointed out on other threads we have 16 million unemployed Americans, declining GDP, 3 trillion added to the debt and yet you are the one continuing to drink the kool-aid. Appears you are the typical obama cult follower
    ah conservative....i see you have had a relapse since our last encounter.....this thread isnt about obama, its about the midterms...get with the program!!

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    Re: A Turning Point For Democrats?

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    ah conservative....i see you have had a relapse since our last encounter.....this thread isnt about obama, its about the midterms...get with the program!!
    And midterms about continued support for the failed Obama agenda and the results generated.

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    Re: A Turning Point For Democrats?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    Well this is a perfect example of why Congress has such a low approval rating. They did the 2/3s thing because Republicans were just going to keep stalling, Wiener believed the King guy would actually have been able to convince his Republican buddies to vote on helping people that helped in 9/11, instead they didn't because it would have probably cut into their pals profits.

    Republicans did what Republicans will constantly do; they overcomplicated a very straight forward vote for their own party, and if you really think that Republicans come out looking like they are on top on this one then well, wow.
    What 2/3's thing, the House doesn't operate like the Senate, a simple majority is all that is needed to pass legislation there.

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    Re: A Turning Point For Democrats?

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    And midterms about continued support for the failed Obama agenda and the results generated.
    politics are a local event, and i've a feeling the repubs are going to be very dissapointed when they don't regain control of both houses

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    Re: A Turning Point For Democrats?

    Anything can happen. But, as I said on a previous thread a week or so ago, I got my money on the dems. That is in no way an endorsement but more of a logical observation. But anything can happen.

    I know the hard core partisan hacks are telling everyone that the dems are sucking ass and they're gonna lose but we have to remember that they are the same folks that declared, without a doubt, that Obama wouldn't be elected in the first place.

    Most of the airplay and noise being made since Obama's election has been coming from the right. But let us not confuse that noise with the silence of the majority of voting citizenry that is more or less just sitting back content with the president. Like a high pitch noise, people tend to tune out certain distractions. I think the right, in it's zeal, have already popped their wad and as soon as the pro-Obama masses take their turn and take to the airwaves, the distant Tea party and GOP whines (and insignificant numbers by comparison) really won't do much for the GOP.

    Then there's the unemployment thing. Couple that with the GOP wanting to restrict those unemployed compensation and I think the dems pretty much have it in the bag. Most folks, right or wrong, still put the current economic situation sqarely on the shoulders of the GOP machine of last as well as their predecessors. Many think it is but a domino effect originally started by the republican's in their defense for big-busness capitolism vs. concern for the citizens.

    Add to the mix the impression that the current GOP politicians are nothing more than obstructionist do-nothings hell-bent on defying the winning party at every turn regardless of the affect it has on the nation, and I'd say the GOP is in for a pretty rough ride.

    But, you never know. But one thing I DO know is that the same folks in here that swore to the high heavens that the dems would lose last go around, will be back making claims against the dem's, that they will lose the NEXT go around. It doesn't seem that the words "Neener, neener" mean much to them. And the beat goes on.

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    Re: A Turning Point For Democrats?

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    politics are a local event, and i've a feeling the repubs are going to be very dissapointed when they don't regain control of both houses
    You better hope that the Democrats lose this fall. If not more of the same and those results aren't something to be proud of.

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