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    Re: A Turning Point For Democrats?

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    Anyone with a brain can understand that Obama and Democrats control the entire Govt and cannot solve the problems they claim Bush created. We seem to have a lot of braindead liberals out of touch with reality and totally lacking basic civics and economics understanding.


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    Re: A Turning Point For Democrats?

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    Had the Democrats adopted that song prior to the 2008 elections, Obama wouldn't be in the WH right now. They bought the "hope and change" message and ignored the resume showing lack of experience.

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    Re: A Turning Point For Democrats?

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    Funny thing is that you don't seem to understand who pays for ALL Govt. jobs and apparently don't understand what our Constitution requires, read it and get back to me especially the part about Provide for the Common Defense which means the military. If all we had was the military then we would have a 600-700 billion dollar budget instead of a 3.8 trillion dollar budget. you really ought to read the U.S. Treasury site sometime and see where our dollars are going. Tell me what you think the role of the govt. is? By the way police departments are funded locally not by federal dollars.
    You do realize that under Bush, over 80% of the amount we spent to rebuild Iraqi is unaccounted for? How is franchising out democracy saving my ass? The truth is, after FDR, several presidents; Democrat and Republican felt the need to go into wars we had no business going into. Iraqi is a war we "won" 6 years ago, and we are just this month finally pulling all major combat operations out. Afghanistan is a war we "won" 8 years ago and while I support Obama using troops to run them out, all we are doing is running them into Africa and Pakistan. Then what do we do?

    Meanwhile we need more teachers, doctors, etc and we just commissioned a new nuclear sub. What in the hell do we need that for? When Iran decides to go to sea? Lol give me a break.

    Also do YOU know where all our dollars go to? Are dollars go straight back to feeding China, our economical enemy because as a nation we are broke, we are to fat all over, but we need to make cuts where it counts, and our government needs to protect us physically, financially, and mentally, something that Obama is trying his damnest to do. He is even trying to reason with conservatives. Can you think of one time Bush Jr. tried to do this? Bush Sr. did it, and Republicans, and the US in general voted him out, and then you got "big bad" Clinton which as far as I can tell Republicans are just festered that he got a little brain and was slickest president we had in a long time.

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    Re: A Turning Point For Democrats?

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    politics are a local event, and i've a feeling the repubs are going to be very dissapointed when they don't regain control of both houses
    Obamacare is very local, too. So is the expiration of the Bush tax cuts and the Obamanomics bill.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: A Turning Point For Democrats?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    You do realize that under Bush, over 80% of the amount we spent to rebuild Iraqi is unaccounted for? How is franchising out democracy saving my ass? The truth is, after FDR, several presidents; Democrat and Republican felt the need to go into wars we had no business going into. Iraqi is a war we "won" 6 years ago, and we are just this month finally pulling all major combat operations out. Afghanistan is a war we "won" 8 years ago and while I support Obama using troops to run them out, all we are doing is running them into Africa and Pakistan. Then what do we do?

    Meanwhile we need more teachers, doctors, etc and we just commissioned a new nuclear sub. What in the hell do we need that for? When Iran decides to go to sea? Lol give me a break.

    Also do YOU know where all our dollars go to? Are dollars go straight back to feeding China, our economical enemy because as a nation we are broke, we are to fat all over, but we need to make cuts where it counts, and our government needs to protect us physically, financially, and mentally, something that Obama is trying his damnest to do. He is even trying to reason with conservatives. Can you think of one time Bush Jr. tried to do this? Bush Sr. did it, and Republicans, and the US in general voted him out, and then you got "big bad" Clinton which as far as I can tell Republicans are just festered that he got a little brain and was slickest president we had in a long time.
    We won WW2 65 years ago. Are there still American troops in Japan, Germany and Italy?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    @apdst Having bases because it is strategically convinent with a government and people that is not hostile towards you and the way we are doing it in the middle east are two totally different things. We already have bases in Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, we have no reason to keep a major amount of troops in Afghanistan or Iraqi. Some MPs and a small base in each country sure, and that is what will eventually happen in both countries, but just like in Germany, Japan, etc those bases don't just serve US troops, they serve our allies and troops for those countries as well.

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    Re: A Turning Point For Democrats?

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Randel, you are the one brainwashed by an ideology that has failed in every sense of the word yet you ignore it. "Your" President has total control of the economic agenda yet continues to blame Bush. "Your" President was part of the Congress that helped create this mess and signed off on all that "Bush spending" yet for some reason it remains Bush's fault and according to you I could be brainwashed? do you realize that how foolish you sound when the facts prove which of us is really brainwased?

    You don't seem to get it, I am NOT a Democrat or a Republican, I am a conservative. I don't buy what I am told like you, I do the research to verify the rhetoric and when I do that research I find that the substance doesn't match the Obama rhetoric. He uses terms like "saved" jobs, "bringing us back from the brink", and "inherited" which are all words to divert from the mess he is creating. BLS doesn't have a chart for saved jobs but it does have a chart for labor force, unemployment, and employment. The U.S. Treasury doesn't have a chart for inherited deficits but does have a chart for actual deficits created and the make up of spending. The Bureau of Economic Analysis doesn't have a chart showing the brink but does have a chart showing economic growth and where growth or deficits occur.

    When I verify the Obama rhetoric I find nothing but lies in that rhetoric and yet you and others believe what you are told. In order for Obama to succeed people like you need to ignore actual facts and continue to buy the rhetoric. Millions and millions of Americans are finding out each day that Obama rhetoric is in conflict with the facts and thus these people are waking up. the question is when will you wake up?
    lol....you seem to have me confused with hard core liberals. what you are spewing my friend, is indeed, republican talking points, you constantly praise republicans and all they do, and demonize democrats. its ok when a republican adds to the debt, but, but heaven forbid a democrat do it...when a republican does it, in your opinion, they are 'growing the economy'...'creating jobs'....'increasing government revenue'.....when a republican does it, its ok by you, when a democrat does it, they are 'ruining the country'....you sir, are a republican apologist. they do no evil by you

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    Re: A Turning Point For Democrats?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    You do realize that under Bush, over 80% of the amount we spent to rebuild Iraqi is unaccounted for? How is franchising out democracy saving my ass? The truth is, after FDR, several presidents; Democrat and Republican felt the need to go into wars we had no business going into. Iraqi is a war we "won" 6 years ago, and we are just this month finally pulling all major combat operations out. Afghanistan is a war we "won" 8 years ago and while I support Obama using troops to run them out, all we are doing is running them into Africa and Pakistan. Then what do we do?

    Meanwhile we need more teachers, doctors, etc and we just commissioned a new nuclear sub. What in the hell do we need that for? When Iran decides to go to sea? Lol give me a break.

    Also do YOU know where all our dollars go to? Are dollars go straight back to feeding China, our economical enemy because as a nation we are broke, we are to fat all over, but we need to make cuts where it counts, and our government needs to protect us physically, financially, and mentally, something that Obama is trying his damnest to do. He is even trying to reason with conservatives. Can you think of one time Bush Jr. tried to do this? Bush Sr. did it, and Republicans, and the US in general voted him out, and then you got "big bad" Clinton which as far as I can tell Republicans are just festered that he got a little brain and was slickest president we had in a long time.
    You do realize that you have Bush Derangement Syndrome and he has been out of office for over 18 months? Then do you realize that Obama has added 3 trillion to the debt in 2 years. Do you realize that it was Democrats that controlled theSenate and House that voted for the war in Iraq just like it was Democrats that had control of Congress when we went into Recession. Also do you know that it isn't federal dollars that pay for police, fire, and teachers? you really need a civics lesson.

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    Re: A Turning Point For Democrats?

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    lol....you seem to have me confused with hard core liberals. what you are spewing my friend, is indeed, republican talking points, you constantly praise republicans and all they do, and demonize democrats. its ok when a republican adds to the debt, but, but heaven forbid a democrat do it...when a republican does it, in your opinion, they are 'growing the economy'...'creating jobs'....'increasing government revenue'.....when a republican does it, its ok by you, when a democrat does it, they are 'ruining the country'....you sir, are a republican apologist. they do no evil by you
    Wrong, you pick and choose what you want to believe. I wasn't for Bush's Immigration reform and wasn't for the TARP bailout nor do I agree with all the Bush spending that got a lot of Democrat support. Problem is now Democrats have put Bush spending on steroids. I asked you to tell me what Obama has done that has made this country stronger and I got silence. Economically Obama has done nothing that I support.

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