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    Re: Birthers Move Over and Make Way for Thirteenthers

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    LOL..... I posted a few up that Article I, section 9, clause 3 would have to be amended before anything could be done as far as changing the 13th amendment and having it affect Barry's Nobel Peace Prize. (that is assuming the Nobel would fall under the 13th, which I doubt)

    Sorry, I just short handed it to 1,9,3.
    Oh...okay...I get it now. And for once, I'd have to agree with you. Art I, Sect. 9, clause 3 would have to be repealed in order for the original 13th Amendment per this discussion to take affect.

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    Re: Birthers Move Over and Make Way for Thirteenthers

    What I don't get is why they think they need to change the 13th amendment when it's already covered by Article I, section 9, clause 8.

    No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince or foreign State.
    The United States Constitution - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net

    So let's look at that....

    Did he accept a "present" in the case of the Nobel prize? Yes

    Did Congress OK it? I don't think so.

    Did he accept the prize from a government?...... A case can be made for that.

    Members of that committee:

    Thorbjørn Jagland
    b. 1950.
    Chair of the Nobel Committee.
    Secretary-general Council of Europe.
    President of the Storting. 2005-2009.


    Ågot Valle
    b. 1945

    Member of the Storting 1997-2009.


    Kaci Kullmann Five
    b. 1951
    Deputy chair of the Nobel Committee.
    Self employed Advisor Public Affairs. Chairman of the Young Conservatives, 1977-79. Member of the Storting, 1981-97.


    Sissel Marie Rønbeck
    b. 1950
    Chairman Social Democratic Youth (AUF) 1975-1977. Member of the Storting 1977-1993.


    Inger-Marie Ytterhorn
    b. 1941
    Senior political adviser to the Progress Party's parliamentary group. Member of the Storting, 1989-93.
    Committee members | Nobels fredspris

    So 2 out of 5 are current members of the Storting, and the other 3 are past members.

    What is the Storting? It's the Parliament of Norway.

    The Storting is the supreme legislature of Norway, located in Oslo.
    Parliament of Norway - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Re: Birthers Move Over and Make Way for Thirteenthers

    No nutty theory is so stupid it won 't find some one who will believe it...
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    Re: Birthers Move Over and Make Way for Thirteenthers

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    So here is an article in search of a story. :
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    Re: Birthers Move Over and Make Way for Thirteenthers

    In the wake of the DOJ's turmoil and at the risk of folks turning their noses up at the decision rendered, I'll post the following for your reading pleasure:

    From the Syracuse.com article (see my post #49):

    Jerry Aldmen from Newsweek reported, "Unfortunately for them, the Department of Justice looked into whether Obama needed Congressional approval to accept the Nobel under the existing emoluments clause, and based on the meaning of “foreign state” (which would not cover the Nobel Prize Committee) concluded that he did not."
    Take that for what it's worth...

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    Re: Birthers Move Over and Make Way for Thirteenthers

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    No nutty theory is so stupid it won 't find some one who will believe it...
    Thank you for your objective, non-partisan opinion.
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: Birthers Move Over and Make Way for Thirteenthers

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    In the wake of the DOJ's turmoil and at the risk of folks turning their noses up at the decision rendered, I'll post the following for your reading pleasure:

    From the Syracuse.com article (see my post #49):





    Take that for what it's worth...
    The DOJ....
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: Birthers Move Over and Make Way for Thirteenthers

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Thank you for your objective, non-partisan opinion.
    How would it be partisan? I think truthers are retarded too.
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    Re: Birthers Move Over and Make Way for Thirteenthers

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    How would it be partisan? I think truthers are retarded too.
    Universal idiocies are like universal truths that way.

    Regardless of party, it's just that obvious.
    It could always be worse.

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    Re: Birthers Move Over and Make Way for Thirteenthers

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    I think for something to be a title of nobility, it has contain some sort of governmental authority. The Nobel prize does not grant any.

    Heck, if you count the Nobel prize as a title of nobility, than that would mean lance armstrong could not hold office since he won the tour de france and got a prize.
    The Constitution addresses more than just titles of nobility. Also it would take 25 more states to ratify.
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