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    Re: Birthers Move Over and Make Way for Thirteenthers

    Quote Originally Posted by TennesseeRain View Post
    I had never heard of this before today, but the thirteenthers are an amazing new addition to anti-Obama crazies, following in the footsteps of the birthers. Iowa Republicans are trying to ratify the original 13th Amendment:



    The idea being that, since Obama received the Nobel Peace Prize, he would be ineligible to be President of the United States if this amendment ever passed. (Ronald Reagan was knighted, but that came after the presidency. And even if he was still in office, it would probably be okay with Iowa Republicans because, you know, Ronald Reagan.) How come Democrats didn't get this creative from 2000 to 2008? We just went to Michael Moore movies all the time.


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    Re: Birthers Move Over and Make Way for Thirteenthers

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    If they passed this law tomorrow, Obama would still be president. No such thing as ex-post-facto laws here in America, as they are banned by the Constitution.
    I think that would be a matter of application and interpretation for the Courts to decide. Honestly, I can see an argument either way.

    But it's irrelevant. It'll never happen. And somebody should check into what the Iowa Republicans are smoking.
    It could always be worse.

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    Re: Birthers Move Over and Make Way for Thirteenthers

    It's already been mentioned in the thread. If you amend the Constitution, the amendment trumps any existing, conflicting provision. All they'd have to do is include "this amendment shall apply to any current office holder" or something like that.

    But no, it isn't going to happen, so it doesn't matter. Not that it would anyway, because the Nobel Prize isn't a title of nobility.
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    Re: Birthers Move Over and Make Way for Thirteenthers

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    It's already been mentioned in the thread. If you amend the Constitution, the amendment trumps any existing, conflicting provision. All they'd have to do is include "this amendment shall apply to any current office holder" or something like that.

    But no, it isn't going to happen, so it doesn't matter. Not that it would anyway, because the Nobel Prize isn't a title of nobility.
    It is if you don't know how to spell or use a dictionary.

    I wonder exactly who their audience is with this? They must think it will get them somewhere with some target group?
    It could always be worse.

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    Re: Birthers Move Over and Make Way for Thirteenthers

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    It's already been mentioned in the thread. If you amend the Constitution, the amendment trumps any existing, conflicting provision. All they'd have to do is include "this amendment shall apply to any current office holder" or something like that.

    But no, it isn't going to happen, so it doesn't matter. Not that it would anyway, because the Nobel Prize isn't a title of nobility.
    Well you know...as long as it keeps us talking about THIS and not

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    Re: Birthers Move Over and Make Way for Thirteenthers

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Well you know...as long as it keeps us talking about THIS and not

    This...



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    Re: Birthers Move Over and Make Way for Thirteenthers

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Well you know...as long as it keeps us talking about THIS and not...
    Heaven forbid anyone actually talk about something other than what you want to talk about.

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    Re: Birthers Move Over and Make Way for Thirteenthers

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Wait, let me get this straight, they want to remove the president from office on the basis of a law that was never passed?
    That's a very good point! Even if they passed that, our laws prohibit ex post facto laws, meaning it would not apply retroactively.

    I remember years ago when Bill Maher made the following comment:

    They had a recall to get rid of Governor Gray in California. They tried to impeach Bill Clinton. And they went to court to keep Gore from becoming President. It's clear that Republicans will do anything to get elected -- except get the most votes.

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    Re: Birthers Move Over and Make Way for Thirteenthers

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    It's already been mentioned in the thread. If you amend the Constitution, the amendment trumps any existing, conflicting provision. All they'd have to do is include "this amendment shall apply to any current office holder" or something like that.
    Good point.

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    Re: Birthers Move Over and Make Way for Thirteenthers

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Like I said.... they would have to change 1,9,3 before they could apply it to Barry's peace prize.
    Care to elaborate? What do the 1st, 3rd and 9th Amendments have to do with the issue at hand? (Not trying to be difficult; I just don't understand where you're going with this?)
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