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    Re: Oliver Stone: 'Jewish-Dominated Media' Prevents Hitler from Being Portrayed 'in C

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    There were about 9 million Jews in Europe, and about 17 million worldwide.
    Correct, I was confusing between the European community and the world community, point taken.
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    Re: Oliver Stone: 'Jewish-Dominated Media' Prevents Hitler from Being Portrayed 'in C

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    SE102, this statement constitutes as a personal attack and is hence reported to the moderation team of the forum.
    Besides that, it is indeed realized that the implication that fewer Jews have died in the Holocaust than it is recognized is a form of holocaust denial.

    I have no idea what are you talking about, I don't remember calling you an Arab and in my post to Demon of Light I have not "called him an Iranian".

    Again, post reported due to personal attacks.

    Once more, the implication that one single race controls all of the news outlets of a state is a racist implication.
    The Nazis at their time for example have preached about Jews controlling the media, the banking system, etc. and using this control to betray the "German Empire" during the first world war, causing its defeat.
    You dont have to participate to the convo if you think you're under attack. My first thread I participated in you called me a confused arab and posted all these smilies with little signs making fun of me. I don't think you got any flak for that.

    Is it possible that internalizing and turning the holocaust into a national holiday is psychologically affecting you and your nation in a negative way?
    Again, post reported due to personal attacks.
    Why, Its a legitimate question that has been asked before. Lots of Jews think that Israel should grow out of 'holocaust obsession'. Anyways, just to clarify, the Shoa as I understand is a holiday dedicated to the holocaust where Israelis fire of fireworks etc etc.

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    Re: Oliver Stone: 'Jewish-Dominated Media' Prevents Hitler from Being Portrayed 'in C

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Um... okay? Not really sure where you got this idea, or what your point is.
    I admit, it was unrelated.

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    Re: Oliver Stone: 'Jewish-Dominated Media' Prevents Hitler from Being Portrayed 'in C

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    Oliver Stone: 'Jewish-Dominated Media' Prevents Hitler from Being Portrayed 'in ConteStick to the topic at hand and stop with the personal attacks.

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    Re: Oliver Stone: 'Jewish-Dominated Media' Prevents Hitler from Being Portrayed 'in C

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Actually, the only other group that the Nazis have killed in the gas chambers besides the Jews are the Gypsies.
    The reason why the Holocaust is mainly recognized with the Jews is obviously due to the number factor.
    Wrong, he put many other races in the death camps, and chambers not just the Jewish people Mosaic Victims and the number of Jews who died should not be the deducing factor in placing the Holocaust as a Jews only genocide. I like the term most Jews use for their part in the holocaust as their Shoah. The actual total number of victims should be at least 11 million to 17 million people Which including many races not just the Jewish race.
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    Re: Oliver Stone: 'Jewish-Dominated Media' Prevents Hitler from Being Portrayed 'in C

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    You dont have to participate to the convo if you think you're under attack. My first thread I participated in you called me a confused arab and posted all these smilies with little signs making fun of me. I don't think you got any flak for that.
    The rules of this forum forbid personal attacks, and those who engage in them may be infracted.
    You are not a new member to this forum and by now you already know that.
    I again do not remember calling you "a confused Arab", and I don't see where did I call poster Demon of Light "an Iranian".

    Why, Its a legitimate question that has been asked before. Lots of Jews think that Israel should grow out of 'holocaust obsession'. Anyways, just to clarify, the Shoa as I understand is a holiday dedicated to the holocaust where Israelis fire of fireworks etc etc.
    I have once more no idea what are you talking about, the Shoa is another name for the Holocaust, and during the Holocaust memorial day there obviously are no fireworks.
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    Re: Oliver Stone: 'Jewish-Dominated Media' Prevents Hitler from Being Portrayed 'in C

    Quote Originally Posted by RyrineaHaruno View Post
    Wrong, he put many other races in the death camps, and chambers not just the Jewish people Mosaic Victims and the number of Jews who died should not be the deducing factor in placing the Holocaust as a Jews only genocide. I like the term most Jews use for their part in the holocaust as their Shoah. The actual total number of victims should be at least 11 million to 17 million people Which including many races not just the Jewish race.
    First of all the Holocaust is by no means recognized as a holocaust of Jews alone, it is merely recognized with the Jews more than with other races due to the number factor and to the fact that the Jews were the race the Nazis have preached against the most.

    Secondly the only ones to be put in the gas chambers were the Jews and Gypsies.

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    The Encyclopędia Britannica defines "Holocaust" as "the systematic state-sponsored killing of six million Jewish men, women, and children and millions of others by Nazi Germany and its collaborators during World War II"[3], although the article goes on to say, "The Nazis also singled out the Roma (Gypsies). They were the only other group that the Nazis systematically killed in gas chambers alongside the Jews."[3]
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    Re: Oliver Stone: 'Jewish-Dominated Media' Prevents Hitler from Being Portrayed 'in C

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    I think his apology was very well stated and I for one have regained some manner of respect for him. His initial point, while valid, was very clumsily delivered and he was right to issue a public apology.
    Then the roses should come up nicely in another month or two...

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    Re: Oliver Stone: 'Jewish-Dominated Media' Prevents Hitler from Being Portrayed 'in C

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    I think his apology was very well stated and I for one have regained some manner of respect for him. His initial point, while valid, was very clumsily delivered and he was right to issue a public apology.
    I don't think he should have apologized at all. It may have been awkward and clumsy but he didn't say anything that was untrue. It's a fact that there is a strong Jewish presence in the media and it is also accurate that any attempt to view Hitler as anything but a red eyed boogey man who ate Jewish babies is met with an immediate attack with the "anti-Semite" slur. You cannot have a study of Hitler without paying the required nod of sympathy to the Jews without having some Jewish league or other come out whining about how you hate them for not giving them their perceived deserved place as the Earth's primary victims.

    Look at what the Jewish coalitions did just for him making a clumsy statement...they came out in force, immediately calling him an anti-Semite and likening him to Mel Gibson, who actually did say some anti-Semetic things in his rant. To me, the word anti-Semite carries the same value as any of the other race cards played by Sharpton or Jackson or any of the other race baiters: absolutely nothing. If someone calls me an anti-Semite, racist, bigot, whatever...I just don't care any more.

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    Re: Oliver Stone: 'Jewish-Dominated Media' Prevents Hitler from Being Portrayed 'in C

    I don't know about Jews dominating the media or whatever, but I do honestly feel that the history of Hitler taught in schools is very biased. He was an economic genius and that was the primary reason why he got voted into power, and not because of his radical world views. He was the first prominent politician to give the finger to France and instruct Germany's industry to keep expanding in order to provide for its people, even though it could risk war. There is practically nothing taught at the high school level about what a disaster the Treaty of Versailles was and how it facilitated Hitler's rise to power; that Treaty was one of the worst things to ever happen to the western world because of what it later caused.

    There is virtually no talk anywhere of how Hitler was well into the onset of Parkinson's disease, which commonly causes psychiatric problems; nor is it mentioned that from 1942 onward he was receiving methamphetamine injections to manage the disease, which, as we know, causes further neurological problems.

    I am not saying Hitler was a good guy. I'm not saying what he ordered was excusable by any stretch of the imagination. What I'm saying is that simply calling him "evil" while omitting all other factors that helped him rise to power, and his descent into madness, is just willful censorship of history. This is all because we have been so heavily indoctrinated to hate Hitler that any mention of the good he did is seen as praising him as a whole, including what he did to the Jews. The Jewish Holocaust basically overshadows everything else that came before it during Hitler's political career.

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