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    Re: Oliver Stone: 'Jewish-Dominated Media' Prevents Hitler from Being Portrayed 'in C

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    Rev, its ok. I just don't get why its interesting to talk about what famous people do, because its their life let them live it like they want too.
    It depends. Normally, celebrities running their mouths matter little. The media hypes it up and the gossip circles have a field day. People eat it up, because their own lives are just that boring. However, today's film directors and writers who take from history have an obligation to truth. They are modern day historians that have far more influence than history authors. When one of them spins real events into a controversial mess of BS, they are guilty of far more than just having stupid opinions.

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    Re: Oliver Stone: 'Jewish-Dominated Media' Prevents Hitler from Being Portrayed 'in C

    Either way, why are we talking about the Jews as though they are an official organization rather than a loose affiliation of religious and cultural denominations?
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    Re: Oliver Stone: 'Jewish-Dominated Media' Prevents Hitler from Being Portrayed 'in C

    Quote Originally Posted by Helvidius View Post
    Why should Jewish people be rubbing the holocaust in everyone elses face? Yes, it was a tragedy, but how many people today were alive in the 1940s? Rubbing it in someones face suggests they were responsible. If someone asked me to apologize for the Holocaust simply because I was Catholic I would refuse. Many different people in the world have been persecuted, it is ok to remember the tragedy, but you shouldn't be holding it over the heads of people who were not responsible.
    I was talking from a broad historical perspective. It's their right to keep reminding the world that it happened. No one should ever imply that they should tone it down. What I meant by "rubbing it in our faces", was that I have absolutely no problem with them reminding us of what we as a species are capable of doing to each other. Seeing as it's pretty clear that other similar tragedies have gone largely unnoticed, it's important that those who possess a significant voice on the world stage are not silenced in any way.

    Though I do not care for Stone's brand of political thought, Israel does have a large impact on U.S. foreign policy. There are many in the media and government who are Jewish or have worked for a Jewish lobbying group. I also think the U.S. has treated Iran unfairly. We condemn Iran for attmepting to build nukes, but allow Israel to keep their nukes. As far as I am concerned the U.S. owes Israel nothing. If anything, it should be Britain that is helping Israel out.
    This part of Stone's argument finds little disagreement with me. Which is why I focused on the other part.
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    Re: Oliver Stone: 'Jewish-Dominated Media' Prevents Hitler from Being Portrayed 'in C

    Over ten years now I've been thinking that Oliver's elevator didn't go all the way to the top floor.


    Glad to see that he's exposed himself for the looney I've long suspected he was.

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    Re: Oliver Stone: 'Jewish-Dominated Media' Prevents Hitler from Being Portrayed 'in C

    Quote Originally Posted by Helvidius View Post
    Why should Jewish people be rubbing the holocaust in everyone elses face? Yes, it was a tragedy, but how many people today were alive in the 1940s?
    Because we need to be reminded of it. The message of the master race and human eugenics has been incredibly powerful throughout human history, and modern western science mixed with the technology of a modern western regime created one of the worst atrocities against humankind ever.

    One should not act like a miniature Henry David Thoreau because you were not alive at the moment it had happened.
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    Re: Oliver Stone: 'Jewish-Dominated Media' Prevents Hitler from Being Portrayed 'in C

    He hasnt made a decent film since Platoon, get back me when Hollywood produces something good. Unlike the amounts of crap thats been churned out as of late.
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    Re: Oliver Stone: 'Jewish-Dominated Media' Prevents Hitler from Being Portrayed 'in C

    Quote Originally Posted by Helvidius View Post
    Why should Jewish people be rubbing the holocaust in everyone elses face? Yes, it was a tragedy, but how many people today were alive in the 1940s? Rubbing it in someones face suggests they were responsible. If someone asked me to apologize for the Holocaust simply because I was Catholic I would refuse. Many different people in the world have been persecuted, it is ok to remember the tragedy, but you shouldn't be holding it over the heads of people who were not responsible.

    Though I do not care for Stone's brand of political thought, Israel does have a large impact on U.S. foreign policy. There are many in the media and government who are Jewish or have worked for a Jewish lobbying group. I also think the U.S. has treated Iran unfairly. We condemn Iran for attmepting to build nukes, but allow Israel to keep their nukes. As far as I am concerned the U.S. owes Israel nothing. If anything, it should be Britain that is helping Israel out.
    Really? i dont see a Jewish history month...a Holocaust remembrance month. I see normal events but have never seen anything 'in your face'. In fact the only time it seems to become a hotbed issue is when an asshole like Achmadinijad or Oliver Stone brings it up and uses it as a springboard to attack Jews. Followed of course by the progressives and their obligatory commentary.

    HISTORY on the other hand bears studying and remembering...primarily so we can recognize warning signs and avoid similar future events (not just with Jews) and so that we can LEARN without reexperiencing it.

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    Re: Oliver Stone: 'Jewish-Dominated Media' Prevents Hitler from Being Portrayed 'in C

    Quote Originally Posted by RyrineaHaruno View Post
    The Elders of Zion thing is crap, and this is coming from a Conspiracy Theorist. Anyone who believes that crap are to lazy to do research on that subject, and see it was faked by a bunch of racist.
    To be precise it was plagiarized from works of fiction that had nothing to do with Jews.

    So he is one of those people that think Jews control America, or does he thinks they control world events.
    Actually the statement "Jews control the media" is factually evident. Many claims about Jewish control of x industry are astonishingly accurate, at least as it concerns the U.S. It is also natural for people to allow their personal bias to become reflected in their work. When you have common heritage with a people, even if you do not share the exact same beliefs you will feel inclined to help them. Not to mention you are more likely to be offended at comments or arguments that might be considered insulting to your people.

    As far as world events PNAC (was run by Jews) and George Soros come to mind. Of course, at the same time those examples prove one other thing, that any notion of a Jewish conspiracy is absurd on its face. George Soros devoted a lot of money to beating Bush, whose Administration (specifically in the first term) was dominated by PNAC members including those of Jewish heritage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    Either way. Absolutely despicable and uncalled for minimizing of the suffering of 6 million people.
    Actually, the 6 million figures seems almost certainly to be an overstatement, based on rather crude calculation methods. It seems to be 5 million at most, though probably even lower than that. It is still probably more than 4 million.

    The fact that the world's Jewish community will NEVER forget and will never allow ANYONE ELSE to forget what happened to them is a GOOD thing. I can't believe anyone would ever dare suggest that keeping the world's focus on what happened during WWII alive is a negative thing.
    It can be a negative thing if it is used to excuse or justify brutality in the present. Look at what's going on with Iran. I have little doubt a war with Iran would be far worse than most are predicting and it will likely be done under the false pretense of preventing another Holocaust. No genocide in history has been used to justify the brutality and abuse that the Holocaust has been used to justify.
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    Re: Oliver Stone: 'Jewish-Dominated Media' Prevents Hitler from Being Portrayed 'in C

    Now Stone is apologizing. I HATE that...I wish he would have just stuck his chin out, stood his ground, and said yeah bitch, I said it...now what? Instead of lying and saying..."oh...Im sorry...I didnt REALLY mean that..." Yes you did, you assclown...you are sorry you didnt THINK before you engaged your MOUTH...but you still meant it.

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    Re: Oliver Stone: 'Jewish-Dominated Media' Prevents Hitler from Being Portrayed 'in C

    Quote Originally Posted by Helvidius View Post
    Why should Jewish people be rubbing the holocaust in everyone elses face?
    Gee, I dunno.... maybe because a third of their population was slaughtered? Just a guess.

    Rubbing it in someones face suggests they were responsible.
    Um, no it doesn't.

    If someone asked me to apologize for the Holocaust simply because I was Catholic I would refuse.
    As you should. But nobody is asking you to apologize.

    Many different people in the world have been persecuted, it is ok to remember the tragedy, but you shouldn't be holding it over the heads of people who were not responsible.
    Yes, if millions of your people get slaughtered, you should do everything you can to make sure that nobody ever, ever forgets it. As the old saying goes, those who do not know their history are doomed to repeat it. And might I add, those who do not care about their history as well.


    FYI, the Jews are not the only ones trying to make sure nobody ever forgets their loss; they are just the most successful. The Armenians have been vigorously trying to make people understand their horror for almost a century. When a Nazi asked Hitler how it was possible that they could get away with the Holocaust, Hitler answered, "Who remembers the Armenians?" That is the danger of not, as you put it, "rubbing it in everyone's faces" whenever a genocide happens. Not that the Armenians haven't been trying to rub their loss in everyone's faces; if anything, they've been trying harder than the Jews. They just still run into trouble doing so with the denial of the perpetrator (Turkey), unlike the Jews.

    History has in fact repeated itself since the Holocaust, in lesser yet still horrible ways - to name just two incidents, in Rwanda and Darfur. But at least every time it has happened, people have seen it for what it is - genocide. And we have Jewish face-rubbing to thank for that.

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