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    Re: Oliver Stone: 'Jewish-Dominated Media' Prevents Hitler from Being Portrayed 'in C

    To prove Winston, point about the conspiracy in to JFK death. I provide you with a little bit of evidence about this picture below


    This picture was taken at the bottom of the book depositary the day Kennedy got shot while the one on the right was taken when Oswald got caught.

    Oswald Innocence on Film

    This website also has a lot of witness in too the case about Oswald, and that day. Oh and lets not forget the people who ran over to the grassy knoll all died of cusses like cancer, car accidents 2 years after his death ect. Something like that only happens 1 in 4 times.

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    Re: Oliver Stone: 'Jewish-Dominated Media' Prevents Hitler from Being Portrayed 'in C

    Plus the fact that the governments so called Magic bullet theory is even less of a possibility, since scientist have put it too the test. So yes their was probably a conspiracy in too the death of JFK.


    This is from one of Oswald's co-workers at the time says the bag he carrying in the morning as too small to carry a gun, and in fact the police try to convince him to confess by saying that Oswald told them he was a co-conspirator. I haven't even seen JFK, and even I doubt the official report of the Kennedy Assassination. I myself was going in too the case after I heard about it in school one day. The investigation had to many weird things happen, and I think the SS ****ed up on the investigation.
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    Re: Oliver Stone: 'Jewish-Dominated Media' Prevents Hitler from Being Portrayed 'in C

    Quote Originally Posted by RyrineaHaruno View Post
    Plus the fact that the governments so called Magic bullet theory is even less of a possibility, since scientist have put it too the test. So yes their was probably a conspiracy in too the death of JFK.
    It wasn't a magic bullet at all sport, you conspiracists have never taken into account that JFK's seat was raised up and Governor Connally's seat was lowered and slightly pushed towards the interior and he was turned slightly to the right as well, computer animation proves that the wounds in both JFK and Connally were a perfect straight trajectory from the Oswald perch when the difference in seat positions are taken into account. They did a special of this on the history channel completely debunking your bull****.

    This is from one of Oswald's co-workers at the time says the bag he carrying in the morning as too small to carry a gun,
    A) He could be mistaken eyewitness testimony is highly unreliable as any good police officer will tell you.

    B) He could have brought the gun in at an early time or day.

    C) He could have assembled the rifle just prior to taking the shot, marines spend hours disassembling and reassembling their weapons day in and day out until they are very very proficient at it. Ever see full metal jack?
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    Re: Oliver Stone: 'Jewish-Dominated Media' Prevents Hitler from Being Portrayed 'in C

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    Do you even contemplate the likelihood that more people who believe in a conspiracy watched it than those who believe the official story?
    The point is more people believe in the bull**** conspiracy theory thanks to that horse**** work of fiction passed off to the public as history.

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    Re: Oliver Stone: 'Jewish-Dominated Media' Prevents Hitler from Being Portrayed 'in C

    Quote Originally Posted by Winston Smith View Post
    And also from the same link:
    The article states that more people believe the conspiracy bull**** because of the film. Most conspiracists you'll find these days will take their cues directly from the film exhibit A) Ryhine promoting the "magic bullet" lie. There was nothing magic about this bullet as computer animation proves conclusively that it was a straight trajectory from the Oswald perch when the layout of the jumpseats are taken into account IE Connally's seat was dropped Kennedy's was raised and Connally's was pushed slightly towards the intererior and Connally was shifted slightly towards the right.



    There was other evidence as well.
    There was no other evidence the House Select Committee relied ENTIRELY on the acoustic analysis to make their determination that there was a 2nd gunman and thus a conspiracy rather than a loan assassin.

    Most likely Oswald killed him; whether he acted alone I don't think has been proven.
    Bugliosi proved it beyond the shadow of a reasonable doubt.

    The chief counsel to the committee has stated unequivocally that the CIA lied to them, which complicates matters.
    About what? Lied to them about what?

    In any case, Stone's film is the story of an investigation, not something that claims to be absolute truth. It advances several incompatible theories, one of which is that the US government had nothing to do with the assassination but was covering up foreign involvement in order to prevent further bloodshed. Even if the conspiracy theories only thrived because the government was too defensive, pressing for answers is still the best way to restore confidence. The effort is useful either way.
    The film was a hodge podge of revisionist conspiracist bull**** passed off as a docu-drama. It was a work of pure fiction which Stone tried to pass off as fact.

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    Re: Oliver Stone: 'Jewish-Dominated Media' Prevents Hitler from Being Portrayed 'in C

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    The article states that more people believe the conspiracy bull**** because of the film.
    No, it doesn't.

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris
    Most conspiracists you'll find these days will take their cues directly from the film exhibit A) Ryhine promoting the "magic bullet" lie. There was nothing magic about this bullet as computer animation proves conclusively that it was a straight trajectory from the Oswald perch when the layout of the jumpseats are taken into account IE Connally's seat was dropped Kennedy's was raised and Connally's was pushed slightly towards the intererior and Connally was shifted slightly towards the right.




    There was no other evidence the House Select Committee relied ENTIRELY on the acoustic analysis to make their determination that there was a 2nd gunman and thus a conspiracy rather than a loan assassin.



    Bugliosi proved it beyond the shadow of a reasonable doubt.



    About what? Lied to them about what?



    The film was a hodge podge of revisionist conspiracist bull**** passed off as a docu-drama. It was a work of pure fiction which Stone tried to pass off as fact.
    I don't really want to get into the assassination theories since the thread is about Stone, not Kennedy. But the committee also cited eyewitness testimony and connections between Oswald and Ruby as factors. Their conclusion that the CIA was not involved was based on certain assumptions about the agency's cooperation, which the counsel later repudiated after learning of information that they had concealed.

    Stone's film is a theory or set of theories based on limited information. I'm sure not everything in it is accurate, but the hysterical reaction was unwarranted. As an accuser, he ought to get some leeway when the accused conceals evidence. His skepticism was both patriotic and useful, unless one had something to hide or was just instinctively afraid of the truth.

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    Re: Oliver Stone: 'Jewish-Dominated Media' Prevents Hitler from Being Portrayed 'in C

    Quote Originally Posted by Winston Smith View Post
    I don't really want to get into the assassination theories since the thread is about Stone, not Kennedy. But the committee also cited eyewitness testimony and connections between Oswald and Ruby as factors.
    Eyewitness testimony = ****, any cop will tell you that, you will have 100 different people telling you 100 different stories especially with a crowd as large as the one in Dealey Plaza on that day. Furthermore; even if there was a connection between Ruby and Oswald (which there isn't any actual evidence for) the idea that Ruby was involved in anything other than an act of revenge in killing Oswald is patently absurd, think about it, you hire a guy to silence the guy to kill the President, then you silence the guy hired to silence the guy to kill the President, but then wait you still have to silence the guy who silenced the guy who silenced the guy who killed the President etc etc ad infinitum.

    Their conclusion that the CIA was not involved was based on certain assumptions about the agency's cooperation, which the counsel later repudiated after learning of information that they had concealed.
    I don't understand how Castro attemtping (but failing) to infiltrate the DRE which was working with the CIA proves their involvement in any way. Furthermore; Oswald was decidedly pro-Castro, he even attempted to become a citizen of Cuba but was denied which was the last straw that pushed him over the edge.

    Show me hard evidence that anyone besides Oswald was involved in the assassination of President Kennedy, you have as much hard evidence as the 9-11 truthers.

    Stone's film is a theory or set of theories based on limited information. I'm sure not everything in it is accurate, but the hysterical reaction was unwarranted. As an accuser, he ought to get some leeway when the accused conceals evidence. His skepticism was both patriotic and useful, unless one had something to hide or was just instinctively afraid of the truth.
    It is a film based on unreliable (at best) testimony and outright proven lies that Stone had to have known to be lies when he put them in the film; such as the, notorious magic bullet.

    Stone lionized a nutcase district attorney on a power trip who attempted to destroy the life of an innocent man IE Clay Shaw.

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    Re: Oliver Stone: 'Jewish-Dominated Media' Prevents Hitler from Being Portrayed 'in C

    Oliver Stone does history? Again? He should have had his permit revoked after "JFK".

    I dont have TIME to counter any more revisionist movie bull****! **** that ****en guy.

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    Re: Oliver Stone: 'Jewish-Dominated Media' Prevents Hitler from Being Portrayed 'in C

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Eyewitness testimony = ****, any cop will tell you that, you will have 100 different people telling you 100 different stories especially with a crowd as large as the one in Dealey Plaza on that day. Furthermore; even if there was a connection between Ruby and Oswald (which there isn't any actual evidence for) the idea that Ruby was involved in anything other than an act of revenge in killing Oswald is patently absurd, think about it, you hire a guy to silence the guy to kill the President, then you silence the guy hired to silence the guy to kill the President, but then wait you still have to silence the guy who silenced the guy who silenced the guy who killed the President etc etc ad infinitum.
    This old argument proves too much. By your reasoning, no government or criminal organization would ever have reason to silence anyone. And yet we know they do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris
    I don't understand how Castro attemtping (but failing) to infiltrate the DRE which was working with the CIA proves their involvement in any way. Furthermore; Oswald was decidedly pro-Castro, he even attempted to become a citizen of Cuba but was denied which was the last straw that pushed him over the edge.

    Show me hard evidence that anyone besides Oswald was involved in the assassination of President Kennedy, you have as much hard evidence as the 9-11 truthers.



    It is a film based on unreliable (at best) testimony and outright proven lies that Stone had to have known to be lies when he put them in the film; such as the, notorious magic bullet.

    Stone lionized a nutcase district attorney on a power trip who attempted to destroy the life of an innocent man IE Clay Shaw.
    It was Oswald, not Castro, who supposedly tried to infiltrate the DRE. There was thus a mutual connection between the CIA and Oswald, which the committee was never able to investigate because the CIA concealed it.

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    Re: Oliver Stone: 'Jewish-Dominated Media' Prevents Hitler from Being Portrayed 'in C

    Quote Originally Posted by RyrineaHaruno View Post
    To prove Winston, point about the conspiracy in to JFK death. I provide you with a little bit of evidence about this picture below
    A) That photo proves absolutely nothing.

    B) Who took it and when was it taken?

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