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    Re: Oliver Stone: 'Jewish-Dominated Media' Prevents Hitler from Being Portrayed 'in C

    Quote Originally Posted by RyrineaHaruno View Post
    Meh I've really not heard much about him, since I am not old enough to know who he is. The Elders of Zion thing is crap, and this is coming from a Conspiracy Theorist. Anyone who believes that crap are to lazy to do research on that subject, and see it was faked by a bunch of racist.



    So he is one of those people that think Jews control America, or does he thinks they control world events.
    I thought it was the Freemason's that controlled America and world events. LOL!!

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    Re: Oliver Stone: 'Jewish-Dominated Media' Prevents Hitler from Being Portrayed 'in C

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    I actually pretty clearly pointed out how three of the major media companies in this country were run or owned by Jews and how the same applied for two of the most influential newspapers in the U.S. as well. From 1996 to 2009 a Jew was also in charge of Fox, also holding one of the most powerful positions in News Corporation in general, but I decided to only go with current leaders.
    You proved absolutely **** all dick, you pointed to three media companies and said hey there's some Jews working in high level positions there. What I want is a peer reviewed statistical analysis demonstrating a disproportionate representation of Jews in high ranking media positions, if you do not provide me with this information then it is safe to assume that you are completely FOS and doing nothing but regurgetating anti-semitic Nazi propaganda which states that JOOS control the media. Here's how empirical analysis works, first you must come up with a set of parameters IE what constitutes a "high ranking position within the media," then make a list of all the people filling those positions in say the 3 major 24 hour news networks along with the largest non-cable networks CBS, NBC, ABC, and Fox, and the ten leading newspapers in the U.S., then determine their ethnicity, then cross reference that with the population statistics for the country as a whole, that is the only way to determine if Jews have a disproportionate representation in "high ranking media positions," in the country, and until those statistics are provided you can just STFU. How about that?

    I didn't say I agree with it, only stating it as the reality. Unfortunately, most people do agree with it.

    You are making an assumption according to you Jews are pre-ordained to look out for other Jews. And by "look out for their own" what exactly do you mean by that? I'm guessing what you really mean is the Jews look out for Israel.

    The SA as a whole was more inclined towards the socialist side of the party.
    On what do you base this on? It had nothing to do with them being more socialist and everything to do with them being a rival to the army and the SS.
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    Re: Oliver Stone: 'Jewish-Dominated Media' Prevents Hitler from Being Portrayed 'in C

    Quote Originally Posted by Winston Smith View Post
    Stone is an interesting filmmaker, too. He's made a valuable contribution to public discourse on a number of topics. It's no mark against him that he's inspired some hatred and ridicule in the process.
    That is by far the single dumbest thing anyone can say about Stone. Anyone who knows a lick about history likes to puke at his work.
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    Re: Oliver Stone: 'Jewish-Dominated Media' Prevents Hitler from Being Portrayed 'in C

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    However claiming that a single ethnicity/race is in control of something like the media is indeed a conspiracy theory.
    How is it a conspiracy theory? A necessary part of any conspiracy theory is that there is an alleged conspiracy. Simply saying a specific ethnic group controls an industry is not the same as alleging a conspiracy.

    It was one of the main anti-Semitic claims coming from the Nazis at their times, that Jews are controlling great parts of the media, the banking system etc. and that Jews have used this control to betray the German Empire during the first world war, and that this was the reason for the German defeat.
    You see the second part is important. There is the assumption that Jews conspire to use their influence to achieve some specific plan that is a uniquely Jewish plan.

    It is the most accurate estimate according to the majority of the historians, of course the figure would probably not be deadly accurate, hence the statement that the figure is "just under six million".
    I know a lot of historians use this estimate, but as I noted the method used is unreliable.

    Why would it seem like "this was also likely overestimated"? What's your basis?
    Most figures I've seen are less than the 1.4 million attributed to him and include non-Jews in the tally. There is also the Korherr report which seems to mention just 633,000 Jews killed by the Einsatzgruppen by 1943 in the Soviet areas, where their operations were most focused, around the time they pretty much stopped operating.

    And no, there are clearly indications that his toll was underestimated. After all there's a reason why his is the lowest estimation.
    What are these clear indications? As far as the reason I've told you several times where the higher figures are coming from.

    Yes, destruction by the gas chambers.
    The fact of the matter is that many groups other than Jews and Romani were gassed. While the wording of the article you cited obviously confused you it did not challenge this fact.

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    You proved absolutely **** all dick, you pointed to three media companies and said hey there's some Jews working in high level positions there. What I want is a peer reviewed statistical analysis demonstrating a disproportionate representation of Jews in high ranking media positions, if you do not provide me with this information then it is safe to assume that you are completely FOS and doing nothing but regurgetating anti-semitic Nazi propaganda which states that JOOS control the media. Here's how empirical analysis works, first you must come up with a set of parameters IE what constitutes a "high ranking position within the media," then make a list of all the people filling those positions in say the 3 major 24 hour news networks along with the largest non-cable networks CBS, NBC, ABC, and Fox, and the ten leading newspapers in the U.S., then determine their ethnicity, then cross reference that with the population statistics for the country as a whole, that is the only way to determine if Jews have a disproportionate representation in "high ranking media positions," in the country, and until those statistics are provided you can just STFU. How about that?
    First ya' need to simmah down chile. Second most would generally see the CEO of a company as the most important position, not to mention actually owning the companies is a big deal. As far as disproportionate, there are any number of sources that will attest to this fact not just in media, but in the corporate world altogether. I don't think I have to hold your hand just because you want little percentiles rather than real people who own and/or run real media corporations.

    Also, I included two of the most influential newspapers so it is more than what you are saying.

    You are making an assumption according to you Jews are pre-ordained to look out for other Jews. And by "look out for their own" what exactly do you mean by that? I'm guessing what you really mean is the Jews look out for Israel.
    I am saying that people tend to support their own ethnic group first. This is just a tendency among people to help their own. As far as what it means it can mean giving them positions they might not normally get, giving them financial aid they might not normally get, or using their influence to support a cause shared by their people.

    On what do you base this on? It had nothing to do with them being more socialist and everything to do with them being a rival to the army and the SS.
    The business community wanted the SA gone for its socialist leanings and most notably is that during the Knight of Long Knives Gregor Strasser, who was not then part of the SA and a notable leader of the left-wing, was killed as well. Reports about Rohm aligning with Strasser supposedly played a major factor in Hitler's decision to initiate the purge.
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    Re: Oliver Stone: 'Jewish-Dominated Media' Prevents Hitler from Being Portrayed 'in C

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Ofc humans will still stand by another genocide
    The Holocaust is so important in the world because it occurred in Europe. Because it occurred in the enlightened West.
    If 6 million Africans died, no one would care imo
    Interesting point.

    And ONLY because of Israel demonization and antisemitism could a teen getting killed 6000 miles away, or a family evicted the same distance, be significant 'International News' headlines/Or strings here or even in the violent Middle East... or there be a Flotilla to a place where NO one was 'starving'.... or Scores of BS UN resolutions.

    It's only because the 'villains' are J..... Israel.
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    Re: Oliver Stone: 'Jewish-Dominated Media' Prevents Hitler from Being Portrayed 'in C

    Quote Originally Posted by Winston Smith

    Stone is an interesting filmmaker, too. He's made a valuable contribution to public discourse on a number of topics. It's no mark against him that he's inspired some hatred and ridicule in the process.
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    That is by far the single dumbest thing anyone can say about Stone. Anyone who knows a lick about history likes to puke at his work.
    Quite Right Fiddytree.
    Stone is an Empty Jerkoff.
    He's not even made coherent conspiracy films.. rather nefarious innuendo ones shedding No light and appealing to the LCD/Lowest Common Denominator/Professional Wrestling crowd.
    Now going for the balance of the large but stupid group that frequents whatreallyhappened.com, Rense.com, etc.
    Anyone now defending him discredits themselves... and does so of ignorance or merely to support this latest attack on Jews.
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    Re: Oliver Stone: 'Jewish-Dominated Media' Prevents Hitler from Being Portrayed 'in C

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Actually, I could very easily and have done so on at least 3 occasions at DP in the past. However, you and I both know that you would refuse to accept facts of this nature because they oppose your rigid and invalid view of things.
    Post your facts. Let's duke it out. I think you know as well as I do, that you'll end up looking foolish.
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    Re: Oliver Stone: 'Jewish-Dominated Media' Prevents Hitler from Being Portrayed 'in C

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I thought it was the Freemason's that controlled America and world events. LOL!!
    Extremist think they are linked with the Freemason xd. Then they claim the Elder of Zion crap is real when it was faked, and plagiarized by a bunch of racist. Freemasonry is kind of cool I think, but do I think they control the American way of life hell naw. As I have stated, before in this thread they are to lazy to do research in too a subject. Now do government conspiracy happen? You bet your ass they do.
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    Re: Oliver Stone: 'Jewish-Dominated Media' Prevents Hitler from Being Portrayed 'in C

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    First ya' need to simmah down chile. Second most would generally see the CEO of a company as the most important position, not to mention actually owning the companies is a big deal. As far as disproportionate, there are any number of sources that will attest to this fact not just in media, but in the corporate world altogether. I don't think I have to hold your hand just because you want little percentiles rather than real people who own and/or run real media corporations.
    So CEO's and Owners are the parameters then?

    K, this isn't that hard sport.

    I will use the parameters of CEO's and Owners of the companies, as my sample population I will use the 3 major 24 hour cable news networks (Fox News, CNN, and MSNBC) and the 4 largest broadcast television networks (CBS, NBC, Fox, and ABC) along with the 10 leading U.S. newspapers which are from highest to lowest, USA Today, The Wallstreet Journal, the New York Times, the LA Times, The Washington Post, the New York Daily News, The Chicago Tribune, The New York Post, Long Island Newsday, and The Houston Chronicle.

    CBS is currently owned by CBS Corporation, the CEO of CBS is Lesley Moonves, he is Jewish:

    Les Moonves

    Both NBC and MSNBC are currently owned by GE the CEO of GE is Jeffrey R. Immelt, he is white:

    Jeffrey R. Immelt

    Fox News is a subsidiary of News Corp the CEO of which is Rupert Murdoch, he is not Jewish, he is white and Christian:

    Rupert Murdoch

    ABC is currently owned by The Walt Disney Company the CEO of which is Robert Iger, he is white:

    Robert Iger

    Your article from the open source wikipedia claims that he is Jewish but the link provided in the citation section breaks, this article claims he is white.

    CNN is currently owned by Time Warner Inc. the CEO of which is Jeffrey L. Bewkes he is white:

    Jeffrey L. Bewkes

    Now on to newspapers.

    USA Today is owned by Gannet Company the CEO of which is Craig A. Dubow he is white:

    Craig A. Dubow

    The Wallstreet Journal is a subsidiary of Newscorp owned by the non-Jew Rupert Murdoch (I won't be counting people twice).

    The New York Times is owned by the New York Times Company, of which the Chairman of the Board is Arthur Ochs Sulzberger, Jr he is White Anglican/Episcopalian:

    Arthur Sulzberger, Jr.

    You claimed he was a Jew so now we're probably going to have to settle on another set of parameters IE how are you classifying someone as Jewish? Are you using the Nuremberg Laws which defined a Jew as someone as having 3-4 Jewish grandparents?

    The LA Times is owned by the Tribune Company which was recently bought by Sam Zell, he is Jewish:

    Samuel Zell

    The Washington Post is owned by the Washington Post Company the CEO of which is Donald E. Graham he is white:

    Donald E. Graham

    The New York Daily News is owned and operated by Mortimer Zuckerman this article labels him white but I'm fairly sure that he is Jewish:

    Mort Zuckerman

    The Chicago Tribune is owned by owned by Tribune (again I won't be counting people twice).

    The New York Post is a subsidiary of Newscorp.

    The Long Island Newday is owned by Tribune.

    The Houston Chronicle is owned by the Hearst Corporation, the CEO of which is Frank A. Bennack, Jr. he is White:

    Frank A. Bennack, Jr.


    O.K. now that wasn't very difficult at all. 3 out of 12 are definately Jewish, that's 25% which is high considering that Jews only make up 2% of the overall population, however, most of these companies are headquartered in New York City and New York City has a 20% Jewish population in fact 1/3 of the entire Jewish population of the U.S. live in NYC.




    Also, I included two of the most influential newspapers so it is more than what you are saying.
    lol you went back to grandparents to determine Jewish ethnicity, even the Nazi's used 3-4 Jewish grandparents, apparently you only need one Jewish grandparent for the grandchild to be considered Jewish. Look if you want to play that game I'm sure we could go back long enough in just about anyone's lineage to find some Jewish heritage.

    I am saying that people tend to support their own ethnic group first.
    Obama has a Muslim father, are you suggesting that Obama supports Muslims over Jews?

    This is just a tendency among people to help their own.
    So you see people in terms of tribes rather than as individuals.

    As far as what it means it can mean giving them positions they might not normally get, giving them financial aid they might not normally get, or using their influence to support a cause shared by their people.
    Let me guess, like supporting Israel?



    The business community wanted the SA gone for its socialist leanings and most notably is that during the Knight of Long Knives Gregor Strasser, who was not then part of the SA and a notable leader of the left-wing, was killed as well. Reports about Rohm aligning with Strasser supposedly played a major factor in Hitler's decision to initiate the purge.
    Strasser united with Schleicher not Rohm. The main reason why the Night of the Long Knives occurred was because the German military wanted Rohm gone because Rohm wanted to absorb the German Military into the SA eliminating the aristocratic leadership and putting the reigns of power into his own hands, that and the independence of the SA constituted a direct threat to Hitler's total consolidation of power. There was no room for Rohm in Hitler's Germany.
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    Re: Oliver Stone: 'Jewish-Dominated Media' Prevents Hitler from Being Portrayed 'in C

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Jews were the single largest minority group singled out by the Nazi's for complete extermination. They bore the brunt of Nazi atrocities.
    And thanks to communism Eurasia didn't befall the same fate + enslavement. Also, 30 million or so Russians died to Nazism I dont know which brunt is bigger the 6 million or 30 million...

    Prove that there is a greater Jewish representation in the media than any other ethnicity. And if there is are you suggesting that Jews as a people somehow act any differently from gentiles?
    Well they must otherwise there wouldn't be a delineation between the two. Anyways. Theres plenty of organizations who basically place pressure on media such as the anti-defamation league. There are tons of organizations just like it and more of them are Jewish really than any other. I used to have a list somewhere.... hrrm where did it go. Also a disproportionate 20% of the news media in the US have been raised in jewish households. Its in my old posts somewhere.

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