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    Re: Harry Reid: Auto Bailout Probably Saved Ford

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Ford didn't take any bailout money, Einstein.
    No ****. No where do I claim they did.

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    Re: Harry Reid: Auto Bailout Probably Saved Ford

    Quote Originally Posted by NolaMan View Post
    Yes, more than unions would have been effected by their collapse, but that is the same of any business, and no reason for the government to save them.



    This is a truly sad statement.
    Maybe not but the more effected, the less likely the government will allow it to fall and the more likely people will vote them out of office if they do. Our system has its draw backs this way.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Harry Reid: Auto Bailout Probably Saved Ford

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    correction. Certain republicans would have done them, yes McCain so you are right there. but nah, if they cant hang they should fold
    Enough would have that it would have been done. It doesn't matter if they should of or not, the fact is history shows us they would have bailed them out. Remember, this isn't the first bailout.

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    Re: Harry Reid: Auto Bailout Probably Saved Ford

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    You use a 2008 article that it could help? Is that because there is no proof it helped.

    Ford did not take the bailout because they did not want government control over their business.

    Ford did what it had to do and GM could have done the same.
    No, it is because this is why Ford was arguing for the aid and why. The proof it did help was that those concerns did not materialize because of the bailout. All you have to do is look at the concerns and see if those were prevented. Not rocket science.

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    Re: Harry Reid: Auto Bailout Probably Saved Ford

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Enough would have that it would have been done. It doesn't matter if they should of or not, the fact is history shows us they would have bailed them out. Remember, this isn't the first bailout.



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    Re: Harry Reid: Auto Bailout Probably Saved Ford

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Is there a point to this red herring?
    Yes, being angery at democrats for doing what all politiicans and parties would have done seems pointless. Until you understand the problem, and the consequences to our leaders if they don't do the bailout, your anger is misdirected and ultmiately fruitless. What they face for giving the bailout is nothing compared to what they would have faced if they hadn't.

    BTW, you might want to investigate what a red herring actually is. Just saying you have it wrong.

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    Re: Harry Reid: Auto Bailout Probably Saved Ford

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Enough would have that it would have been done. It doesn't matter if they should of or not, the fact is history shows us they would have bailed them out. Remember, this isn't the first bailout.

    Fallacy: Red Herring





    We are talking about harry ried and his gaffe, your talking about McCain and republicans as usual.
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    Re: Harry Reid: Auto Bailout Probably Saved Ford

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Fallacy: Red Herring





    We are talking about harry ried and his gaffe, your talking about McCain and republicans as usual.
    His gaft is meaningless. But I was actually speaking to someone else about something specific. You entered the discussion. Discussions often move from the meaningless to something deeper and vice versa. You always have a choice to participate or ignore. But, it is not a red herring. Go back and try to follow the discussion you entered into.

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    Re: Harry Reid: Auto Bailout Probably Saved Ford

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    His gaft is meaningless. But I was actually speaking to someone else about something specific. You entered the discussion. Discussions often move from the meaningless to something deeper and vice versa. You always have a choice to participate or ignore. But, it is not a red herring. Go back and try to follow the discussion you entered into.



    Uhm I started the thread, you entered my discussion with a red herring regarding republicans. please go back and try to not fail so hard.





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    Re: Harry Reid: Auto Bailout Probably Saved Ford

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Uhm I started the thread, you entered my discussion with a red herring regarding republicans. please go back and try to not fail so hard.





    You're gonna need a bigger bucket.
    You don't control the discussion. Nor was I talking to you. You entered into another sub discussion. Gafts are uninteresting and unimportant. Others started talking about the bailouts, a better discussion IMHO.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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