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    Re: Harry Reid: Auto Bailout Probably Saved Ford

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Yes, money may have fallen from the sky. We know. But, we do know where the stimulus money has ended, and I linked this earlier, tose jobs ended when the money ended. No money fell and saved them. Lost. And it appears more losses are coming.
    Totally agree. Sad because people would rather cut jobs to make a political point than find ways to cut costs f government. I intend to work for free for our town to look for ways to reduce costs which will not adveresly impact the townspeoples way of life.

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    Re: Harry Reid: Auto Bailout Probably Saved Ford

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    Totally agree. Sad because people would rather cut jobs to make a political point than find ways to cut costs f government. I intend to work for free for our town to look for ways to reduce costs which will not adveresly impact the townspeoples way of life.
    Noble effort. No complaint from me on that.

    However, I don't much can be done along those lines. Take a school. The cost for the building up keep and utlities won't go down. Even if you layout the cost for more efficient heating a cooling, something not likely, those costs almost always go up. Cutting teachers and crowding classrooms is often counterproductive. So, hard decisions often have to be made, and often, we're not better for them.

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    Re: Harry Reid: Auto Bailout Probably Saved Ford

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Noble effort. No complaint from me on that.

    However, I don't much can be done along those lines. Take a school. The cost for the building up keep and utlities won't go down. Even if you layout the cost for more efficient heating a cooling, something not likely, those costs almost always go up. Cutting teachers and crowding classrooms is often counterproductive. So, hard decisions often have to be made, and often, we're not better for them.
    There are a ton of costs that do not impact teachers or schools. I won't know where the potential savings will come from until I have a chance to look at all the elements of cost and try to come up with solutions on how to lower them.

    The one thing I am comfortable saying is that I have never seen a business where there were not opportunities to reduce costs. It seems like a safe bet that the same will be true with the town's spending.

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    Re: Harry Reid: Auto Bailout Probably Saved Ford

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You miss the point.
    The point of the lies that only the GOP is in big business pocket

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    Re: Harry Reid: Auto Bailout Probably Saved Ford

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    There are a ton of costs that do not impact teachers or schools. I won't know where the potential savings will come from until I have a chance to look at all the elements of cost and try to come up with solutions on how to lower them.

    The one thing I am comfortable saying is that I have never seen a business where there were not opportunities to reduce costs. It seems like a safe bet that the same will be true with the town's spending.
    I would bet very few. Schools are bled pretty dry. If anything, it would be in administration costs. Good luck with that.

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    Re: Harry Reid: Auto Bailout Probably Saved Ford

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I would bet very few. Schools are bled pretty dry. If anything, it would be in administration costs. Good luck with that.
    The problem with public schools is that more money does not equate to better education. I would support a system in which the money a child is given to go to school (ie the tax dollars that would be spent on them at public school) are attached to the child, and not the school. The child can then pick whatever school they want. Bad schools would simply "go out of business" because students would not stay at them.

    There is a lot of money that can probably be saved in on our education system, and firing bad teachers is not a bad place to start.

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    Public schools (at least in LA) spend more money per student than private schools, yet the better education is in private schools. Why are vouchers a bad idea?

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    Re: Harry Reid: Auto Bailout Probably Saved Ford

    Quote Originally Posted by NolaMan View Post
    The problem with public schools is that more money does not equate to better education. I would support a system in which the money a child is given to go to school (ie the tax dollars that would be spent on them at public school) are attached to the child, and not the school. The child can then pick whatever school they want. Bad schools would simply "go out of business" because students would not stay at them.

    There is a lot of money that can probably be saved in on our education system, and firing bad teachers is not a bad place to start.
    While I would argue that wealthier schools likely do better than poorer schools, I am not arguing more money equates to a better education. In fact, I would argue the variables for success in school are many and involve more than just the school. And we have that system in Iowa. Works reasonably well, but I do see some drawback. There will still be students unable to move for one reason or another and will be stuck in a poor school. I think this would be more pronounced in larger cities. It's much the same problem with vouchers.

    Bad schools would not go out of business. In fact, with unregulated competition, we'd likely see the growth of the "rent to own" version of education. By this I mean, it would be pared down to the point of proving very little but a grade. Poorer people seeking a bargin will go that route. In the end, we make the inequaties more pronounced.

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    Re: Harry Reid: Auto Bailout Probably Saved Ford

    I think that standardized tests would show how well a school is or is not doing. It's a lot more than just a letter grade that can be used to judge a school.

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    Re: Harry Reid: Auto Bailout Probably Saved Ford

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    I think that standardized tests would show how well a school is or is not doing. It's a lot more than just a letter grade that can be used to judge a school.
    Actually, they really don't. The worse type of measuremnt is the stnadardized test. And at best, it can only show how an individual student is doing. It really can't measure the instructor. Unlike a shoe, children act independently, have other factors other than the teacher and the school effecting their potential outcomes. A great teacher can look worse than a poor teacher based on the conditions and student population they work in. And tests, like we see with NCLB, can be dumbed down to make things look better while actually being worse.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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