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    Re: New Laws Target Workplace Bullying

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    I think at the point you feel physically threatened. But, that's JMHO. After all, yelling can be a precursor to violence.
    That's why it astounds me that anyone can adopt your position on this issue. I'm an adult and I can take criticism of my work performance like a professional. I don't need to be "babied" or "coddled" as chevydriver and Ikari seem to imply, but if someone gets too close to me and raises their voice, I think I'm being attacked and I respond in kind. There is no excuse for this behavior and I think it should be just as illegal in the workplace as it is in public spaces-- where it's deemed "disorderly conduct" and even "assault".

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    Re: New Laws Target Workplace Bullying

    The way I see it is that its about intimidation. Noone should feel intimidated in the normal course of their day. Personally, I will probably be more responsive to calm criticism than I will to someone screaming at me, if only because the second guy pissed me off.

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    Re: New Laws Target Workplace Bullying

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Where I work, it's pretty laid back and people have fun saying the meanest and nastiest things to each other.
    Some of the Hispanic and Black guys throw racial slurs at each other for laughs.
    No body gets butt hurt about it.

    Introduce a "sensitive" person and that could change quickly.
    Honestly, things have gone to far where "hostile work environment" is concerned. "Hostile work environment" suits should be reserved for cases in which the work environment is actually hostile.

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    Re: New Laws Target Workplace Bullying

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Honestly, things have gone to far where "hostile work environment" is concerned. "Hostile work environment" suits should be reserved for cases in which the work environment is actually hostile.
    Ohh I agree, if things were more balanced I might not be as opposed to something like this but we know that many people will take advantage of this as an easy score.
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    Re: New Laws Target Workplace Bullying

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Honestly, things have gone to far where "hostile work environment" is concerned. "Hostile work environment" suits should be reserved for cases in which the work environment is actually hostile.
    I agree, its like those lawsuits for a hostile environment because some chick didn't like a compliment or overhead a private conversation between two guys. Sometimes things go overboard even if the law does do a lot of good.

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    Re: New Laws Target Workplace Bullying

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    That's why it astounds me that anyone can adopt your position on this issue. I'm an adult and I can take criticism of my work performance like a professional. I don't need to be "babied" or "coddled" as chevydriver and Ikari seem to imply, but if someone gets too close to me and raises their voice, I think I'm being attacked and I respond in kind. There is no excuse for this behavior and I think it should be just as illegal in the workplace as it is in public spaces-- where it's deemed "disorderly conduct" and even "assault".
    That's my feeling exactly.

    I don't yell at other people, even when I'm pissed, because I don't like how I act, how I feel, or how I cause others to act or feel when I yell. When someone yells at me, I feel competing impulses to yell back, leave, or tune them out.

    The end result is that I've learned how to transmit the depth of my anger with someone without raising my voice or using coarse language, and I expect others to do the same.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: New Laws Target Workplace Bullying

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    That's why it astounds me that anyone can adopt your position on this issue. I'm an adult and I can take criticism of my work performance like a professional. I don't need to be "babied" or "coddled" as chevydriver and Ikari seem to imply, but if someone gets too close to me and raises their voice, I think I'm being attacked and I respond in kind. There is no excuse for this behavior and I think it should be just as illegal in the workplace as it is in public spaces-- where it's deemed "disorderly conduct" and even "assault".
    There is a difference though. Hence why i said if you FEEL physically threatened. I've been yelled at where I certainly did not feel physically threatened in the slightest, and been yelled at when I did. In the workplace, it's highly unlikely I'd feel physically threatened.

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    Re: New Laws Target Workplace Bullying

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    I agree, its like those lawsuits for a hostile environment because some chick didn't like a compliment or overhead a private conversation between two guys. Sometimes things go overboard even if the law does do a lot of good.
    Heh, they made us a watch a video at work that said you could be sexually harassing someone and not know it (isn't the point of harassment to be purposeful ).
    It also said that if you approached(asking out maybe?) someone of the other sex and they rejected it, that could also be sexual harassment.

    Moronic ****.
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    Re: New Laws Target Workplace Bullying

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    I'm going to have to side with the whole "yelling is stupid" crowd. That said, if the employees tolerate it, that's their choice.

    I had a boss who was both physically and verbally intimidating and had a habit of yelling at us whenever he was displeased with the slightest thing. The effect it had wasn't to make us work harder or smarter, but rather to make sure he never found out about anything that was done 'wrong'. LOL It led to a lot of covering up of **** that probably shouldn't have been covered up. But he was very intimidating, and we usually just avoided interacting with him at all cost. And he continued to be that way until someone stood up to him. *ahem*
    There's a professor here who is similar, in fact I work for her now. She's not physically intimidating at all since she's like 5'4"; but man get on her bad side and you're gonna hear about it for awhile. But it's her lab, her rules; so she gets what she wants. And those who have been successful in her lab understand that if you just do your job and do it well, you're fine. That's that. Sometimes it does suck, but it's also not the end of the world. Keep your nose to the grindstone and you're ok. I'm not so fragile as to completely fall apart if I get yelled at.
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    Re: New Laws Target Workplace Bullying

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Heh, they made us a watch a video at work that said you could be sexually harassing someone and not know it (isn't the point of harassment to be purposeful ).
    It also said that if you approached(asking out maybe?) someone of the other sex and they rejected it, that could also be sexual harassment.

    Moronic ****.
    Yeah, one of the things in this law should be that it should be proved that intimidation was purposeful, just like sexual harassment.

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