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    Re: New Laws Target Workplace Bullying

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Depends on your definition of harrass. But, given the most simplistic definition, I would find it horribly inappropriate to summon the police just because someone yelled at me.
    I can see your point. My point is that there's a line in the sand that I think most reasonable people could generally agree upon in principle.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: New Laws Target Workplace Bullying

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    I can see your point. My point is that there's a line in the sand that I think most reasonable people could generally agree upon in principle.
    I think at the point you feel physically threatened. But, that's JMHO. After all, yelling can be a precursor to violence.

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    Re: New Laws Target Workplace Bullying

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
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    Exactly, I yell at my employees when they dont perform. One part of my pay is performance, if my people dont perform I dont get paid so yea, Im gonna get mean, ruthless and nasty because if I dont my boss will find someone who will. My motto is that if you dont like the heat get out of the fire, especially in a time where there are people who will do the work I ask.

    Workplace Bullying: New York Bill Targets Abusive Bosses - TIME
    I wonder if you can be sued for calling someone cat ****er?

    Honestly, my workplace is not for professional dialog.
    Add a bunch of nancy princesses and we'd probably have a dozen lawsuits by the end of the day.
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    Re: New Laws Target Workplace Bullying

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I wonder if you can be sued for calling someone cat ****er?

    Honestly, my workplace is not for professional dialog.
    Add a bunch of nancy princesses and we'd probably have a dozen lawsuits by the end of the day.
    First we must look at accuracy.
    1. Does the person in question **** cats?

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    Re: New Laws Target Workplace Bullying

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    First we must look at accuracy.
    1. Does the person in question **** cats?
    It is an unknown but he has a questionable relationship with a cat.
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    Re: New Laws Target Workplace Bullying

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    It is an unknown but he has a questionable relationship with a cat.
    Ok, so it is plausable.
    2. Are you in a position of authority in regards to this person?

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    Re: New Laws Target Workplace Bullying

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    You're that much of a wuss? Jesus Christ, sometimes people don't do their job and you have to yell at them a bit. ****ing get over it. If you don't want to get yelled at, don't do a piss poor job; that's all there is to it. But sometimes it happens and just because it happens doesn't mean that people should get their damned underwear in a knot. I work in research facilities, and there's always yelling in some form. Equipment breaking or programs failing things like that. Also, so PIs will yell at their post-docs and grad students if they aren't putting in at least 14 hours per day 7 days a week.
    Come on no graduate student in my department pulls those kinds of hours; especially for a whopping 25k per year!I would hate to work for your adviser.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    There can be just yelling for the sake of yelling, and maybe people can work on that. But sometimes a worker gets chewed out when they mess up or under perform and that's that. You may call it unprofessional, but it's also unprofessional to not do your job and cost your employer money.
    No kidding, but you must have never dealt with an adviser who was bipolar or you would be whistling a different tune. There was a particular case in my department where a bipolar PI drove all his students away either by quitting, firing, or even suicide. I had confirmation that he was bipolar by his former students. Bottom line is that the employer is not always right because there are such things as bad supervisors.

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    Re: New Laws Target Workplace Bullying

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Ok, so it is plausable.
    2. Are you in a position of authority in regards to this person?
    Sort of, I am more awesome than he.
    Realistically he's almost my superior.
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    Re: New Laws Target Workplace Bullying

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Sort of, I am more awesome than he.
    Realistically he's almost my superior.
    You are probably ok, but wash your hands if you touch him.

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    Re: New Laws Target Workplace Bullying

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    You are probably ok, but wash your hands if you touch him.
    Where I work, it's pretty laid back and people have fun saying the meanest and nastiest things to each other.
    Some of the Hispanic and Black guys throw racial slurs at each other for laughs.
    No body gets butt hurt about it.

    Introduce a "sensitive" person and that could change quickly.
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