Last edited by Josie; 07-22-10 at 09:19 AM.
I think you are confusing regular people with the extremists in this case. I am pretty much a mainstream liberal when it comes to most social issues and I view those guys as annoying and troublesome as well.
Last edited by tacomancer; 07-22-10 at 10:47 AM.
Mind you I DO see a lot of catholic priests in California pressing for sanctuary and in opposition to enforcement of immigration laws...certainly a lot of pressing of social agendas in many of them, but usually those are from people with cameras in front of their faces.
It could be he's trying to make a very specific attack and he's throwing the baby out with the bathwater, but so far I don't think that's the case.
my pastor has pointed out that we need to focus on why we choose to support what we do - are you doing it for the right reasons?
as for Beck, Christianity, and the forced redistribution of wealth:
the key word lacking from the 'and they held all things in common' is coercion.. those who really want us to legislate what Christianity urges (giving to the poor) need to question what their opinion will be on illegalizing homosexuality, multiple marriages, social security for people with relatives, and so forth. furthermore, they are going to have to explain why they don't let individuals pay whatever tax rate they prefer.
what does the New Testament say about entitlements?
2 Thess 3 : We were not idle when we were with you, nor did we eat anyone's food without paying for it. On the contrary, we worked night and day, laboring and toiling so that we would not be a burden to any of you. We did this, not because we do not have the right to such help, but in order to make ourselves a model for you to follow. For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: "If a man will not work, he shall not eat."
We hear that some among you are idle. They are not busy; they are busybodies. 12Such people we command and urge in the Lord Jesus Christ to settle down and earn the bread they eat. And as for you, brothers, never tire of doing what is right.
If anyone does not obey our instruction in this letter, take special note of him. Do not associate with him, in order that he may feel ashamed. Yet do not regard him as an enemy, but warn him as a brother.
1 Tim 5: Give proper recognition to those widows who are really in need. But if a widow has children or grandchildren, these should learn first of all to put their religion into practice by caring for their own family and so repaying their parents and grandparents, for this is pleasing to God. The widow who is really in need and left all alone puts her hope in God and continues night and day to pray and to ask God for help. But the widow who lives for pleasure is dead even while she lives. Give the people these instructions, too, so that no one may be open to blame. If anyone does not provide for his relatives, and especially for his immediate family, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
No widow may be put on the list of widows unless she is over sixty, has been faithful to her husband, and is well known for her good deeds, such as bringing up children, showing hospitality, washing the feet of the saints, helping those in trouble and devoting herself to all kinds of good deeds.
how about how taking care of the poor should be handled?
2 Cor 9: Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver
“If we must have an enemy at the head of Government, let it be one whom we can oppose, and for whom we are not responsible, who will not involve our party in the disgrace of his foolish and bad measures.”
- Alexander Hamilton. Spiritual father of #NeverTrump
It's awfully interesting how the liberals and progressives who have been screaming about keeping church out of government for decades are now using Jesus Christ in order to create policy.
Last edited by Josie; 07-22-10 at 06:34 PM.
It's kind of like how libertarians oppose legislating morality but wind up voting for the same guy that's backed by the Christian Coalition.
If you're interested in Jim Wallis and Faithful America, go to their sites.
Sojourners: Christians for Justice and Peace
Then read this to learn more about Glenn's views:
Glenn Beck - Current Events & Politics - Glenn Beck: What Is 'Social Justice'?