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    Re: First rig sails away over drilling ban

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    I'm not suggesting stopping the use of fossil fuels cold turkey. But I'm saying that this incident should raise awareness that there are better ways to provide for our energy needs, and we need to push for more research, and refinement on those technologies, and resources.
    When you say:
    We need to stop using fossil fuels while we still can.
    That does not imply "slowly over time so we can properly shift our resources and slowly control the change"
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    Re: First rig sails away over drilling ban

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    I'm not suggesting stopping the use of fossil fuels cold turkey. But I'm saying that this incident should raise awareness that there are better ways to provide for our energy needs, and we need to push for more research, and refinement on those technologies, and resources.
    You support killing a couple hundred thousand oilfield jobs in less than a year. That sounds like cold turkey, to me.
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    Re: First rig sails away over drilling ban

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    Like what? Shrimping? Oystering? Crabbing? !!!

    Perhaps I can get a job choppin' cotton, like my ancestors on the plantation. Yes??

    With an unemployment rate at 10%, you make it sound as if there are employers just standing in line to give all those unemployed oilfield hands a new job. Where are all those super-duper green jobs? Are they ready for people to start monday morning?
    Yeah, holy crap.
    In an argument about getting non-oil industry jobs we're actually discussing an area of the country that's just been **** on and ravaged of all other resources of food and employment.
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    Re: First rig sails away over drilling ban

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    Like what? Shrimping? Oystering? Crabbing? !!!

    With an unemployment rate at 10%, you make it sound as if there are employers just standing in line to give all those unemployed oilfield hands a new job. Where are all those super-duper green jobs? Are they ready for people to start monday morning?
    There are no jobs, I know. But you know who can create jobs, the government. Have a government job program doing things that would benefit the country.

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    Re: First rig sails away over drilling ban

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    There are no jobs, I know. But you know who can create jobs, the government. Have a government job program doing things that would benefit the country.
    And what will people do?
    What jobs will they create?

    I've yet to hear a real solution to this problem . . . there obviously isn't one. I'm sure that if Obama could snap his fingers and create a lot of jobs for people to work he would have done it already.

    And besides - I thought the states received millions in bailouts for "shovel ready jobs" - I guess that didn't come to fruition, but the money was sure gobbled up.

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    Re: First rig sails away over drilling ban

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    There are no jobs, I know. But you know who can create jobs, the government. Have a government job program doing things that would benefit the country.
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    The government can't create jobs.

    Please, join us here in the real world for a moment. Obama spent a trillion bucks to create, how many jobs??? Where did that money come from, exactly?
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    Re: First rig sails away over drilling ban

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    The government can't create jobs.

    Please, join us here in the real world for a moment. Obama spent a trillion bucks to create, how many jobs??? Where did that money come from, exactly?
    Dah dum daaaa

    From peoples TAXES that they paid by WORKING and BUYING stuff.

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    Re: First rig sails away over drilling ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    And what will people do?
    What jobs will they create?

    I've yet to hear a real solution to this problem . . . there obviously isn't one. I'm sure that if Obama could snap his fingers and create a lot of jobs for people to work he would have done it already.

    And besides - I thought the states received millions in bailouts for "shovel ready jobs" - I guess that didn't come to fruition, but the money was sure gobbled up.

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    We need GDP to rise, and with consumer, and investment spending down, and our imports exceeding our exports the only way we can raise GDP is through government spending. The gov. can create jobs with a new deal like job program. Doing things like improving infrastructure, maybe mass producing solar panels, really anything will do. But we might as well improve, and advance our society with such programs. Yeah you could drill, but why pour money into a tech, and resource that we need to get away from. With these new jobs, it will give more people a steady income, in turn they will spend, which will increase consumer spending, which will help investment spending, and if we produce enough products with this program, we can even out the ratio of imports/exports. With these factors increasing, and the improved market more jobs will open up. Thats when we can cut down this job program, and let those workers find jobs in an improved market. Then we can concentrate on reducing this massive deficit we have. We need to focus on improving the economy first, and we might as well tackle one of the biggest issues facing the future generations of the not only this country, but the world early. So we can save not only us, but our kids, and grandkids a very big hassle. We are at a juncture on this issue where we could do nothing, and make the future generations race against time to solve it. Or we can solve it now, and move on from this dangerous, and nonrenewable source of energy.

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    Re: First rig sails away over drilling ban

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    We need GDP to rise, and with consumer, and investment spending down, and our imports exceeding our exports the only way we can raise GDP is through government spending. The gov. can create jobs with a new deal like job program. Doing things like improving infrastructure, maybe mass producing solar panels, really anything will do. But we might as well improve, and advance our society with such programs. Yeah you could drill, but why pour money into a tech, and resource that we need to get away from. With these new jobs, it will give more people a steady income, in turn they will spend, which will increase consumer spending, which will help investment spending, and if we produce enough products with this program, we can even out the ratio of imports/exports. With these factors increasing, and the improved market more jobs will open up. Thats when we can cut down this job program, and let those workers find jobs in an improved market. Then we can concentrate on reducing this massive deficit we have. We need to focus on improving the economy first, and we might as well tackle one of the biggest issues facing the future generations of the not only this country, but the world early. So we can save not only us, but our kids, and grandkids a very big hassle. We are at a juncture on this issue where we could do nothing, and make the future generations race against time to solve it. Or we can solve it now, and move on from this dangerous, and nonrenewable source of energy.
    Much better.

    Sadly, to start any sort of new deal type shock therapy to the system it takes money - and honey - we aint got that. We're already wallowing in a skyrocketing deficit.

    I can't find the article, now *so annoying when that happens* but earlier I read an article about outsourced jobs being brought back to the US. . . the cause being that foreign workers are protesting more and demanding more pay increases and so forth.

    Things in the private sector might switcharoo - and bring things back to US soil where they should always have been to begin with. . . .which could solve such problems.

    but there's no short-term quick solution to a problem that's been brewing and building for so long, really. We're a day late and a few trillion short.
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    Re: First rig sails away over drilling ban

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    With all due respect sir the oil industry provides about 50,000 jobs in my state alone. So keep your canadian comments to yourself. It's not your state or country or even problem. We'll deal with it, thanks.
    With all due respect, I could be afforded more respect than that. Last time I checked this forum isn't for Americans only. If you don't like that, maybe you should shove off.

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