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    Re: First rig sails away over drilling ban

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post

    I love how "big oil" is so evil but other corporations making record profits are fine. Yea, wal mart doesn't have oil wells to worry about making pollution, but they screw their employees big time. Where is the outrage for that record profit making corporation? They're the biggest employer in this country. If you don't think the pollution created to heat and cool wal mart counts, then you are simply biased and really illegitimate for discussion, IMHO.
    He will probably find some outrage against Wal Mart when the administration works on card check.

    Does it seem ironic to anyone that the person who said there was no blue or red America just a purple one finds a way to demonize whatever industry he wants to regulate next.

    Wonder when the media will start pointing out this B.S.

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    Re: First rig sails away over drilling ban

    Oh yea CPD, damn right my posts are slanted in favor of my industry. That industry has supplied us with the money to live a nice lifestyle and own what we want to, to a point. Your posts are all slanted against it, and to use your own words, "We're sick and tired of hearing the spin."

    Isn't that funny how libs work? If you're in favor of big oil, your posts are bad. You can knock big oil, and that's fine.

    Catz is a joke.
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    Re: First rig sails away over drilling ban

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    He never authorized drilling. He authorized exploration of offshore blocks that have already been explored. That was nothing more than lip service.
    According to administration officials, the plan would:

    * Eventually open two-thirds of the eastern Gulf's oil and gas resources for drilling.

    * Proceed with drilling off Virginia, provided the project clears environmental and military reviews.

    * Study the viability of drilling off the mid- and southern Atlantic coasts.

    * Study the viability of drilling in Alaska's Beaufort and Chukchi seas -- areas hotly defended by environmentalists -- but issue no new drilling leases in either sea before 2013.

    Obama to unveil offshore drilling plans for oil, natural gas - Los Angeles Times


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    Tarballs have been washing up on gulf beaches for centuries and now it's a detriment to tourism? Florida and Texas got tarballs and they aren't even from MC 252's reservoir. How do ya think that happened?

    Maybe The Messiah should have pulled his head out of his and allowed the containment to take place like it should have? Or, would that have hindered his latest agenda pushing crisis?
    Those could be from the Katrina spills or other ongoing spills. More tar balls isn't a good thing.

    LOL@"agenda pushing crisis".
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    Re: First rig sails away over drilling ban

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    Ok, what are the odds, then? One well blows out and suddenly there's a better than average chance that it'll happen again? Of the millions of wells that have been drilled in the world, two have been this bad. What do you think the odds are?

    Who care, huh? As long as the evil ole oil and gas industry is hurt in the process.
    There are not millions of deep water wells.

    I can tell you given the results of the BP spill, odds are that they can't do squat about it if another well were to have this happen again.
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    Re: First rig sails away over drilling ban

    I saw on the national news (CBS?) last night where 5 drilling platforms were being towed off to foreign shores to do their drilling. A man from La, who is an oil wildcatter said that his whole town ?? relies on the oil business. He estimated a 125,000 job layoff from the moving of the platforms. I feel sorry for him, yet I can't help but remember all of the other industries that have left the US, or been taken over by illegals in the last 20 years.

    Oil man: Welcome to the club!

    America needs a shake down. We should organize a grass roots boycott movement for "Take this job and shove it" week. Or longer. OK, that wouldn't work. All of the unemployed would fill the vacancies. Could we at least go for a month buying only Made in the USA items? I know there wouldn't be much to choose from.

    I remember when "Be American, buy American" actually meant something. Since everyone clamors for cheap foreign junk, no one should be crying about being without a job. We killed our own jobs ourselves. Lie in the bed.

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    Re: First rig sails away over drilling ban

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    Ya know AP, something has to happen with some sort of regularity, meaning more than 1 time, to be able to analyze the odds of it occurring again. There simply haven't been enough occurrences of these blowouts and oil leaks IN US WATERS IN THE GULF OF MEXICO (ya know, like, where the BP spill occurred, to all of those too dense to realize this) to make an accurate determination. This means the chance is still considered infinite. I took statistics in college and one thing you had to have to make a stat, was that thing actually happening some number of times.

    That being said, I think that Ind.Thinker and Catz, etc, those people feel like victims. They own cars, those cars MUST take fuel. So, they MUST buy fuel. Besides food and a house, you really don't HAVE to buy anything. Of course they don't want to walk to work, so they buy a car. And that damn car uses gas. Ugh.....and they have no control over the price of gas. They MUST pay whatever the sign says, period.

    This lack of control over something so mandatory frustrates them. So they turn on the TV and hear their liberal brethren fussing at "big oil" as if Chevron has the ability to raise the global price of a barrel of oil. They feel that since they are victims, someone has to be the bad guy. The bad guy is "big oil." They make record profits so they are evil. CPD and IT think profits are evil, or record profits, anyway. Now it would be totally ok if their favorite signer made record profits on CD sales, but not big oil because evil big oil MADE people buy their gas and so they were holding them by the neck and shaking every penny out of their pockets to put into their fuel tanks. Evil big oil. Evil evil!

    They'll use some lame ass excuse about pollution when truth be told the vehicles they put the gas in pollute way more than the oil companies do to extract it. But that would mean their own cars are evil.....so that doesn't work. They buy hybrid cars.......when those cars have some of the worst chemicals in their batteries, far far worse than anything in a regular old car. But....but....but.....hybrid cars get great gas mileage!!! Yea.....they do, until you gotta replace that 6000 dollar battery and dispose of it. Whatcha gonna do with 3 million of these huge batteries that can't easily be recycled? Oh ****, looks like the old evil gas burning cars win again, they win in the pollution department too.

    I can understand them being upset when gas goes up for no apparent reason. Hell, it upsets me too, I can't blame them there. But it was the investors that drove it up last time. I was told, several years ago, that gas was worth about 2.50 a gallon and after bottoming out and rising up, it would probably stabilize within 10 cents of that amount and would stay there for quite some time. And that is EXACTLY what happened. Who told me that? My father, who works in the industry. Gas has been 2.50 or near there for almost 2 years I think, by far the longest it has remained at any level. At least around here, not sure about country wide, but here for sure.

    I love how "big oil" is so evil but other corporations making record profits are fine. Yea, wal mart doesn't have oil wells to worry about making pollution, but they screw their employees big time. Where is the outrage for that record profit making corporation? They're the biggest employer in this country. If you don't think the pollution created to heat and cool wal mart counts, then you are simply biased and really illegitimate for discussion, IMHO.
    I never said they were evil. I don't care what the odds of another spill are. If there is another spill, odds are they can't do anything to stop it in a timely fashion. Ask your father about that. I ride a bike to work.

    Your straw man is ridiculous. A moratorium on deep water wells doesn't mean we have to stop using oil altogether.
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    Re: First rig sails away over drilling ban

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    There are not millions of deep water wells.

    I can tell you given the results of the BP spill, odds are that they can't do squat about it if another well were to have this happen again.
    There's where you're wrong. They've learned alot from this blowout. You think they weren't taking notes?
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    Re: First rig sails away over drilling ban

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Those could be from the Katrina spills or other ongoing spills. More tar balls isn't a good thing.

    LOL@"agenda pushing crisis".
    Katrina and other ongoing spills?

    Ok!!
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    Re: First rig sails away over drilling ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    I saw on the national news (CBS?) last night where 5 drilling platforms were being towed off to foreign shores to do their drilling. A man from La, who is an oil wildcatter said that his whole town ?? relies on the oil business. He estimated a 125,000 job layoff from the moving of the platforms. I feel sorry for him, yet I can't help but remember all of the other industries that have left the US, or been taken over by illegals in the last 20 years.

    Oil man: Welcome to the club!

    America needs a shake down. We should organize a grass roots boycott movement for "Take this job and shove it" week. Or longer. OK, that wouldn't work. All of the unemployed would fill the vacancies. Could we at least go for a month buying only Made in the USA items? I know there wouldn't be much to choose from.

    I remember when "Be American, buy American" actually meant something. Since everyone clamors for cheap foreign junk, no one should be crying about being without a job. We killed our own jobs ourselves. Lie in the bed.
    You might be pleasantly surprised. Want to put your money where your mouth is? Check out this website!

    Still Made in USA.com - American-Made Products for Home and Family

    I still don't see the link between wanting to pay the lowest price for a t-shirt and someone losing their oil platform job to a gov't induced drilling moratorium. If you could do me a favor and link them together, I'd appreciate it. Otherwise your argument makes no sense, at least to me.

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    Re: First rig sails away over drilling ban

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    There's where you're wrong. They've learned alot from this blowout. You think they weren't taking notes?
    What did they learn? The methods used with Ixtoc I still don't work?
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