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    Re: First rig sails away over drilling ban

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    I don't think that risking another oil spill while the MMS gets their act together is a very wise move. The spills affect more than unemployed oil workers would.
    Just to point out, the MMS does not exist any longer.

    That said, you are correct, and oil spill this size obviously effects a large group of people. I don't think anyone is arguing that point.

    That said, the economic impact of the deepwater drilling moratorium (speaking for Louisiana here) is devastating as well. It is costing hundreds of millions (billions even) in lost economic activity, lost tax revenue (federal and state), and potentially putting people out of work for good.

    Already we have seen more than 1 rig be contracted out to other areas, and they are leaving the Gulf. That means they are not going to be coming back when the moratorium is lifted, and the workers who serviced/worked on this will not be able to suddenly have their jobs back.

    All of this after all of these rigs passed another safety inspection by the Department of the Interior.

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    Re: First rig sails away over drilling ban

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    This isn't a job loss issue. It's an environmental one. More oil spills won't help the tourism industry either.
    Alot of those tourists work in the oil and gas industry. Tourists with no jobs sure as hell won't help the tourism industry.

    This has nothing to do with anything but Obama's agenda.
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    Re: First rig sails away over drilling ban

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    The answer to oil in the Gulf is more oil in the Gulf?

    One in a million chance my butt.
    That's right, one in a million. There's a better chance of you dieing in a plane crash than there is of another blowout such as this one.
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    Re: First rig sails away over drilling ban

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Alot of those tourists work in the oil and gas industry. Tourists with no jobs sure as hell won't help the tourism industry.

    This has nothing to do with anything but Obama's agenda.
    His agenda? He authorized more drilling before the spill. Given the majore disaster that happened, he reconsidered.

    Tar balls and oily wildlife don't help tourism.
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    Re: First rig sails away over drilling ban

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's right, one in a million. There's a better chance of you dieing in a plane crash than there is of another blowout such as this one.
    I don't fly every day.
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    Re: First rig sails away over drilling ban

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    I don't fly every day.
    Thanks for illustrating my point.
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    Re: First rig sails away over drilling ban

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Thanks for illustrating my point.
    LOLWUT???

    It's not a valid comparison.

    Also, you haven't supported the one in a million odds. I think you made it up.
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    Re: First rig sails away over drilling ban

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    His agenda? He authorized more drilling before the spill. Given the majore disaster that happened, he reconsidered.


    He never authorized drilling. He authorized exploration of offshore blocks that have already been explored. That was nothing more than lip service.

    Tar balls and oily wildlife don't help tourism.
    Tarballs have been washing up on gulf beaches for centuries and now it's a detriment to tourism? Florida and Texas got tarballs and they aren't even from MC 252's reservoir. How do ya think that happened?

    Maybe The Messiah should have pulled his head out of his and allowed the containment to take place like it should have? Or, would that have hindered his latest agenda pushing crisis?
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    Re: First rig sails away over drilling ban

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    LOLWUT???

    It's not a valid comparison.

    Also, you haven't supported the one in a million odds. I think you made it up.
    Ok, what are the odds, then? One well blows out and suddenly there's a better than average chance that it'll happen again? Of the millions of wells that have been drilled in the world, two have been this bad. What do you think the odds are?

    Who care, huh? As long as the evil ole oil and gas industry is hurt in the process.
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    Re: First rig sails away over drilling ban

    Ya know AP, something has to happen with some sort of regularity, meaning more than 1 time, to be able to analyze the odds of it occurring again. There simply haven't been enough occurrences of these blowouts and oil leaks IN US WATERS IN THE GULF OF MEXICO (ya know, like, where the BP spill occurred, to all of those too dense to realize this) to make an accurate determination. This means the chance is still considered infinite. I took statistics in college and one thing you had to have to make a stat, was that thing actually happening some number of times.

    That being said, I think that Ind.Thinker and Catz, etc, those people feel like victims. They own cars, those cars MUST take fuel. So, they MUST buy fuel. Besides food and a house, you really don't HAVE to buy anything. Of course they don't want to walk to work, so they buy a car. And that damn car uses gas. Ugh.....and they have no control over the price of gas. They MUST pay whatever the sign says, period.

    This lack of control over something so mandatory frustrates them. So they turn on the TV and hear their liberal brethren fussing at "big oil" as if Chevron has the ability to raise the global price of a barrel of oil. They feel that since they are victims, someone has to be the bad guy. The bad guy is "big oil." They make record profits so they are evil. CPD and IT think profits are evil, or record profits, anyway. Now it would be totally ok if their favorite signer made record profits on CD sales, but not big oil because evil big oil MADE people buy their gas and so they were holding them by the neck and shaking every penny out of their pockets to put into their fuel tanks. Evil big oil. Evil evil!

    They'll use some lame ass excuse about pollution when truth be told the vehicles they put the gas in pollute way more than the oil companies do to extract it. But that would mean their own cars are evil.....so that doesn't work. They buy hybrid cars.......when those cars have some of the worst chemicals in their batteries, far far worse than anything in a regular old car. But....but....but.....hybrid cars get great gas mileage!!! Yea.....they do, until you gotta replace that 6000 dollar battery and dispose of it. Whatcha gonna do with 3 million of these huge batteries that can't easily be recycled? Oh ****, looks like the old evil gas burning cars win again, they win in the pollution department too.

    I can understand them being upset when gas goes up for no apparent reason. Hell, it upsets me too, I can't blame them there. But it was the investors that drove it up last time. I was told, several years ago, that gas was worth about 2.50 a gallon and after bottoming out and rising up, it would probably stabilize within 10 cents of that amount and would stay there for quite some time. And that is EXACTLY what happened. Who told me that? My father, who works in the industry. Gas has been 2.50 or near there for almost 2 years I think, by far the longest it has remained at any level. At least around here, not sure about country wide, but here for sure.

    I love how "big oil" is so evil but other corporations making record profits are fine. Yea, wal mart doesn't have oil wells to worry about making pollution, but they screw their employees big time. Where is the outrage for that record profit making corporation? They're the biggest employer in this country. If you don't think the pollution created to heat and cool wal mart counts, then you are simply biased and really illegitimate for discussion, IMHO.
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