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    The disparity between federal and private sector pay...

    This is a joke: OMB chief calls reports federal employees are overpaid 'misleading' : New Patriot Journal

    OMB chief calls reports federal employees are overpaid 'misleading'



    OMB chief calls reports federal employees are overpaid 'misleading'

    By Tom Shoop - Reprinted from GovernmentExecutive.com

    Reports that federal employees are overpaid relative to their private sector counterparts are "misleading," Office of Management and Budget Director Peter R. Orszag said Tuesday.

    Speaking at a Government Executive Leadership Briefing, Orszag addressed recent media reports showing that for certain occupations, average salaries are higher in the federal government than in the private sector.

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    Re: The disparity between federal and private sector pay...

    What I couldn't find is what the certain noccupations are. Head of agencies don't come close to many CEO pay. State Directors, Forest Supervisors pay is not close imo to many regional bank directors. Some wildland firefighters in the federal side may make more than the private sector. Yet CA CDF pays fftrs more than the feds. So whats the point?

    "Speaking at a Government Executive Leadership Briefing, Orszag addressed recent media reports showing that for certain occupations, average salaries are higher in the federal government than in the private sector.
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    Re: The disparity between federal and private sector pay...

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    What I couldn't find is what the certain noccupations are. Head of agencies don't come close to many CEO pay. State Directors, Forest Supervisors pay is not close imo to many regional bank directors. Some wildland firefighters in the federal side may make more than the private sector. Yet CA CDF pays fftrs more than the feds. So whats the point?

    "Speaking at a Government Executive Leadership Briefing, Orszag addressed recent media reports showing that for certain occupations, average salaries are higher in the federal government than in the private sector.
    The point is that federal or even state employees should not be making more than private sector employees performing the same tasks while on the tax payer's dime.

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    Re: The disparity between federal and private sector pay...

    Here is an example of such. I'll quote the relevant part, but here's the link to the source: snopes.com: Congressional Pensions


    As of 2007, the average annuities for retired members of Congress were $63,696 for those who retired under CSRS and $36,732 for those who retired under FERS. Those figures are quite good (about "2-3 times more generous than what a similarly-salaried executive could expect to receive upon retiring from the private sector," according to the National Taxpayers Union)

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    Re: The disparity between federal and private sector pay...

    So should our leaders have the same pay as equalent CEO pay?
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    Re: The disparity between federal and private sector pay...

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    So should our leaders have the same pay as equalent CEO pay?
    Who do you constitute as our leaders? And I most certainly don't CEO's manufacture something--some sort of necessity or commodity. Our leaders do not. Pay should not be an incentive to being part of government. If you want to be a part of ther government it should be to uphold what's in the constitution. The purpose of government and buisiness is fundamentally different. Government is meant to serve the populous, buisiness is meant to serve itself.

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    Re: The disparity between federal and private sector pay...

    Quote Originally Posted by Rightwingnutjob View Post
    Who do you constitute as our leaders? And I most certainly don't CEO's manufacture something--some sort of necessity or commodity. Our leaders do not. Pay should not be an incentive to being part of government. If you want to be a part of ther government it should be to uphold what's in the constitution. The purpose of government and buisiness is fundamentally different. Government is meant to serve the populous, buisiness is meant to serve itself.
    Yet is there not some sortof similarity in the roles they fill? Same money for the same job type of deal? Leader of the nations is a much bigger job than leader of an y single company in the US.

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    Re: The disparity between federal and private sector pay...

    Quote Originally Posted by Rightwingnutjob View Post
    The point is that federal or even state employees should not be making more than private sector employees performing the same tasks while on the tax payer's dime.
    OK, I know CDF pays for for their firefighters (forest). Should the pay for feds be raised? Rural Metro (private), pays FFTRs more than the Feds, should we match what Rural Metro Pays?

    The govt. and private will pay what will attract and retain employees.
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    Re: The disparity between federal and private sector pay...

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    OK, I know CDF pays for for their firefighters (forest). Should the pay for feds be raised? Rural Metro (private), pays FFTRs more than the Feds, should we match what Rural Metro Pays?

    The govt. and private will pay what will attract and retain employees.
    Federal employees get better benefits. Do you really believe that the government doesn't over pay itself?

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    Re: The disparity between federal and private sector pay...

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    So should our leaders have the same pay as equalent CEO pay?
    frankly, i think our leaders pay should be a function of average pay for Americans. give them an incentive to stop f*#*$ing the economy.

    it also strikes methat revoking the executive order giving federalemployees the right to unionize would be helpful here. in the private sector, unions tend to parasitically kill off the industries they become attached to. in the public sector, heck, it's not like the government is giving up it's own money...
    Last edited by cpwill; 07-11-10 at 09:43 PM.

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