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The disparity between federal and private sector pay...

If you pay less (overall once you factor in benefits) you are probably going to get less capable people. Since government has an effect on all of our lives, they need to have good people who can get the job done.
 
You fail to see the similarities because you did not read your links.
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Wrong
You posted how the President oversees basically the government.
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You then posted how the CEO advises the board, which is similar to the President advising Congress.
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I've advised congress by letter, does that make me similar to a CEO?
You then posted how the President fills positions and then cite how a CEO does the same thing with HR.
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Right now Republicans are bashing Obama for poor fiscal management. Which is the 4th point in your CEO paragraph. As Bush and Obama and pretty much every president has done, they look to the future and attempt to push policy towards that. Bush for example in his NASA push for Mars. Obama in clean energy. The same fashion how a CEO plans a vision for the future.
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Not just republicans. There is a slight similarity here, but this is MUCH more of a congress thing than a president thing. So I'll call this 75% wrong.
 
megaprogman said:
If you pay less (overall once you factor in benefits) you are probably going to get less capable people. Since government has an effect on all of our lives, they need to have good people who can get the job done.
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Our government is still incompetent. I still believe that by-and-large, they make more. So I guess the inverse of your statement is wrong?
 
Rightwingnutjob said:
Our government is still incompetent. I still believe that by-and-large, they make more. So I guess the inverse of your statement is wrong?
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The government is both competent and incompetent. I think it depends on what part of it you are referring to. Also, as noted, people only make more at the lowest rungs.
 
megaprogman said:
The government is both competent and incompetent. I think it depends on what part of it you are referring to. Also, as noted, people only make more at the lowest rungs.
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Where has the government been competent?
 
Rightwingnutjob said:
Where has the government been competent?
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USPS, completely self funded and it works. I am able to go out to my mailbox every day (excluding Sunday) and pick up my new mail, which has been delivered to me in a timely and cheap fashion, at no cost to the taxpayer. Tell me that isn't competent.
 
ScottD said:
USPS, completely self funded and it works. I am able to go out to my mailbox every day (excluding Sunday) and pick up my new mail, which has been delivered to me in a timely and cheap fashion, at no cost to the taxpayer. Tell me that isn't competent.
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Alright, I'll give you the nod here. USPS is running into problems though.
 
Rightwingnutjob said:
Wrong
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Because you say so?

Wrong
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Because you say so?

I've advised congress by letter, does that make me similar to a CEO?
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Do you seriously think you sending an idle letter to Congress is the same thing as Obama calling in various representatives and Senators into his office to talk with them on a daily basis?


Not just republicans. There is a slight similarity here, but this is MUCH more of a congress thing than a president thing. So I'll call this 75% wrong.
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It's funny how you are now calling your own post wrong.
 
Rightwingnutjob said:
The point is that federal or even state employees should not be making more than private sector employees performing the same tasks while on the tax payer's dime.
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Have you studied this enough to know that this in fact that case?
 
American said:
Have you studied this enough to know that this in fact that case?
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Admittedly, no. I do know post office workers make $18 an hour. To sort and deliver. They get paid for an 8 hour day regardless of whether they work 8 hours. This is one example. During the census, workers were paid for hours where they weren't working. The two examples I know of are enough to convince me they probably aren't the only cases.
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
They purposefully exposed innocent people to unsafe levels of radioactive substances, in order to test what the safe level of exposure was.
To me that renders it as incompetent.
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Nah. If they did it by accident, it would be incompetent, I think a better description of that act, and similar ones (tuskegee syphilis study) is irresponsible/evil.

Also to add to the list,
NIST
NOAA
CBO

Typically the competent government agencies are the boring ones that noone pays attention to.
 
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Rightwingnutjob said:
Or shouldn't exist in the first place.
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Possibly. However, NIST establishes weights and measures, which is in the constitution I believe. NOAA is mostly weather, but given how destructive hurricaines and tornados can be, I personally view that as a national security matter. CBO serves an essential budgetting function.
 
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