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    The Elite Turn Against Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by The Daily Beast
    July 7, 2010 | 6:46am

    You’d think the well-heeled and enlightened eggheads at the Aspen Ideas Festival—which is running all week in this fashionable resort town with heady panel discussions and earnest disquisitions involving all manner of deep thinkers and do-gooders—would be receptive to an intellectually ambitious president with big ideas of his own.

    In a way, the folks attending this cerebral conclave pairing the Aspen Institute think tank with the Atlantic Monthly magazine might even be seen as President Obama’s natural base.

    Apparently not so much.

    “The real problem we have,” Mort Zuckerman said, “are some of the worst economic policies in place today that, in my judgment, go directly against the long-term interests of this country.”

    Obama’s top economic adviser, Larry Summers, and his departing budget director, Peter Orszag, can expect heavy weather when they land in Aspen later this week to make their case to this civic-minded clique of wealthy skeptics.

    “If you’re asking if the United States is about to become a socialist state, I’d say it’s actually about to become a European state, with the expansiveness of the welfare system and the progressive tax system like what we’ve already experienced in Western Europe,” Harvard business and history professor Niall Ferguson declared during Monday’s kickoff session, offering a withering critique of Obama’s economic policies, which he claimed were encouraging laziness.

    “The curse of longterm unemployment is that if you pay people to do nothing, they’ll find themselves doing nothing for very long periods of time,” Ferguson said. “Long-term unemployment is at an all-time high in the United States, and it is a direct consequence of a misconceived public policy.”
    This is a scathing review and critique of the state of our country right now - both politically and economically. When groups like this who supported the current administration with money, vocal support and votes are asking "Wha happun?" while looking around wide eyed and shocked --- Houston, we have a problem.

    Aspen Ideas Festival: Obama Loses Support of Nation
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: The Elite Turn Against Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    This is a scathing review and critique of the state of our country right now - both politically and economically. When groups like this who supported the current administration with money, vocal support and votes are asking "Wha happun?" while looking around wide eyed and shocked --- Houston, we have a problem.

    Aspen Ideas Festival: Obama Loses Support of Nation
    Not a good sign when the base realizes the Emperor has no clothes.

    • "The America Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money." -- Alexis de Tocqueville





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    Re: The Elite Turn Against Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Not a good sign when the base realizes the Emperor has no clothes.
    He has clothes, yours and mine.

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    Re: The Elite Turn Against Obama

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    He has clothes, yours and mine.
    But they're really not ours, they're borrowed --- they're actually owned by the Chinese and Saudi Arabia.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: The Elite Turn Against Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    But they're really not ours, they're borrowed --- they're actually owned by the Chinese and Saudi Arabia.
    Yeah, it's just like that we don't really own any property, either. Don't pay your real estate taxes to your city and find out who really owns your property.

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    Re: The Elite Turn Against Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    This is a scathing review and critique of the state of our country right now - both politically and economically. When groups like this who supported the current administration with money, vocal support and votes are asking "Wha happun?" while looking around wide eyed and shocked --- Houston, we have a problem.

    Aspen Ideas Festival: Obama Loses Support of Nation
    They sure did a good job in this article to spin it to make it appear this was a huge group of wealthy liberals bashing on Obama. One of the people in your quote, the person who gave the most scathing critique by far, was a former McCain adviser:
    YouTube - Why America Needs McCain - Niall Ferguson

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    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    They sure did a good job in this article to spin it to make it appear this was a huge group of wealthy liberals bashing on Obama. One of the people in your quote, the person who gave the most scathing critique by far, was a former McCain adviser:
    YouTube - Why America Needs McCain - Niall Ferguson
    It just started, but did you not see Zuckerman's quote or the Harvard professors views? I thought those were much more impactful - Ferguson's views well, they're no surprise really.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: The Elite Turn Against Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    They sure did a good job in this article to spin it to make it appear this was a huge group of wealthy liberals bashing on Obama. One of the people in your quote, the person who gave the most scathing critique by far, was a former McCain adviser:
    YouTube - Why America Needs McCain - Niall Ferguson
    A lot of liberals and Obama supporters are suddenly criticizing him. Jeffrey Immelt, CEO of GE recently gave a speech where he blasted Obama. I heard that even Barbara Steisand is now criticizing him. That's not counting the recent lambasting by Carville.

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    Re: The Elite Turn Against Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    It just started, but did you not see Zuckerman's quote or the Harvard professors views? I thought those were much more impactful - Ferguson's views well, they're no surprise really.
    I believe that the Harvard professor was Ferguson, unless I missed something.

    And yes, I saw what Zuckerman said, but I couldn't find anything on the entire google where he has ever praised Obama. I can find pieces where he's bashed his policies since shortly after he was elected. The most I can find support wise is that the newspaper he owns endorsed Obama in the election but it's hard to tell if that was from the editors or from him.

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    Re: The Elite Turn Against Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    A lot of liberals and Obama supporters are suddenly criticizing him. Jeffrey Immelt, CEO of GE recently gave a speech where he blasted Obama. I heard that even Barbara Steisand is now criticizing him. That's not counting the recent lambasting by Carville.
    I read that he said that Obama doesn't like big business and that big business doesn't like Obama (paraphrased). It is what it is. Barbara Streisand I don't even care enough about to look up what she said. Carville doesn't think Obama is up to snuff on the oil spill and is obviously aggravated at the governments response, and with good reason.

    However, I have a hard time thinking that these few instances are representative of some large movement of his base turning on him. I think that falls more under wishful thinking than anything else.

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