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    Re: President Obama to Make Recess Appointment of CMS Administrator Rationing Expert

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    It seems to me the language is simple and plain..... what Barry did is unconstitutional.
    Would you argue that every recess appointment that has ever occurred where the vacancy didn't start during the same recess of congress where the recess appointment was made was and is unconstitutional and that every president that has done so in the past should have been impeached?

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    Re: President Obama to Make Recess Appointment of CMS Administrator Rationing Expert

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    Where in the constitution does it say that a recess appointment is only ok if he was going through confirmation process or before his own party has vetted him? It's either unconstitutional or not but those two factors have nothing to do with it.
    I showed you where in the Constitution that the President may appoint by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate. I showed you where in the Constitution that the President can only appoint someone for a vacancy that came up during a recess. I proved what Barry did was unconstitutional.... you can't deny that with a straight face.

    What I asked for is proof of your contention that other Presidents have done the same thing... i.e., by passed the Senate completely and appointed someone before his own party had finished vetting said person. I call BS.
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    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: President Obama to Make Recess Appointment of CMS Administrator Rationing Expert

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    Would you argue that every recess appointment that has ever occurred where the vacancy didn't start during the same recess of congress where the recess appointment was made was and is unconstitutional and that every president that has done so in the past should have been impeached?
    Unless you can show me something in the Constitution that says they can do it, then yes.
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: President Obama to Make Recess Appointment of CMS Administrator Rationing Expert

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    I showed you where in the Constitution that the President may appoint by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate. I showed you where in the Constitution that the President can only appoint someone for a vacancy that came up during a recess. I proved what Barry did was unconstitutional.... you can't deny that with a straight face.

    What I asked for is proof of your contention that other Presidents have done the same thing... i.e., by passed the Senate completely and appointed someone before his own party had finished vetting said person. I call BS.
    I argued that presidents have made recess appointments on spots that didn't occur during that recess, I never argued what you're asking for.

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    Re: President Obama to Make Recess Appointment of CMS Administrator Rationing Expert

    Quote Originally Posted by TennesseeRain View Post
    Do you have an actual opinion about the topic at hand or did you just enter this thread to help out your buddy with the insults? There's a name for people who do that, too....Um...I forget again....gimme time...it'll come to me.
    Yes, I posted a rather lengthy opinion on Obama's reasoning for this appointment.

    I must have missed your "actual opinion" on the topic... perhaps you could point it out to me.

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    Re: President Obama to Make Recess Appointment of CMS Administrator Rationing Expert

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post

    EDIT: I would also be weary of calling this an impeachable offense. Following long established norms is hardly "high crimes and misdemeanors".
    You have yet to show that what Barry did is "long established norms"

    I've never seen this done before.
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: President Obama to Make Recess Appointment of CMS Administrator Rationing Expert

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    I suppose Bush should have been impeached for that move huh?
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    Re: President Obama to Make Recess Appointment of CMS Administrator Rationing Expert

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    I argued that presidents have made recess appointments on spots that didn't occur during that recess, I never argued what you're asking for.
    Really?

    Originally Posted by roughdraft274
    This phrase has been controversial, I'll certainly admit to that, but the supreme court has never decided on it's meaning and the general consensus among politicians is that what he did is fine. It's been done hundreds of times before.
    My contention is that no President has ever completely by passed the Senate confirmation process and appointed someone that his own party hadn't finished vetting....... like Barry did.

    So please back up your statement that it’s been done hundreds of times, or admit that what Barry did is unprecedented in the history of this country.
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: President Obama to Make Recess Appointment of CMS Administrator Rationing Expert

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Yes, I find it very insulting when boors call innocent children "retarded".

    If you weren't complaining, why did you bring it up???
    Not for nothing...but why? Why do you personally find it insulting?

    Before the days of the politically correct dictionary mental retardation was not considered an insult but rather a descriptor amongst the medical community. And while Down is a chromosomal disorder there is no denying that many suffer from some level of mental retardation. Thems the facts. And if it is just that it bothers you because ugly people use it as an insult, well...you might want to consider how much control and responsibility for your own happiness you put in someone elses hands. It certainly says far more about the individual than the child...

    And for the record, my oldest sister in law had Down...and she was a wonderful person...a true blessing in my life...

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    Re: President Obama to Make Recess Appointment of CMS Administrator Rationing Expert

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    You have yet to show that what Barry did is "long established norms"

    I've never seen this done before.
    Are you arguing that it's not common place for presidents to make recess appointments for spots that didn't become vacant during that recess?

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