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    Re: Glenn Beck launches online University

    Quote Originally Posted by PubliusInfinitu View Post
    Hey LOOK KIDS! It's the Raw, but all too baseless assertion that Beck has 'just made something up and intentionally conveyed it as fact'...
    The man doesn't even claim to be a journalist... He describes himself as an "entertainer"... Pretty much every single day a new story comes out where it turns out he completely fabricated some piece of information or another... Seriously, you are oblivious to all that?

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    Re: I Re: Glenn Beck launches online University

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    And David Barton talks way too fast.
    He does this so you won't catch the lies he is telling you.


    TPM goes to class:

    Me And Glenn Down By The Schoolyard: TPM Enrolls At Glenn Beck's 'University' | TPM LiveWire

    Barton elaborated. He began by talking about Alexis de Tocqueville's concept of "American Exceptionalism," noting that "there's gotta be a reason we're different" from other democracies. That's where the "Black-Robed Regiment" comes in. These, according to Barton, were the preachers who influenced the bulk of the Declaration of Independence:
    The Declaration of Independence is nothing more than a listing of all of the sermons that folks had been hearing in church in the decades leading up to the American Revolution.

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    Re: Glenn Beck launches online University

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    The man doesn't even claim to be a journalist... He describes himself as an "entertainer"... Pretty much every single day a new story comes out where it turns out he completely fabricated some piece of information or another... Seriously, you are oblivious to all that?


    ROFLMNAO... Are you appealing to the authority of "Journalists"? 'Cause it sure looks like ya are...

    If so, would ya like me to educate you on the fatal flaw in such reasoning? But I warn you... the facts associated with such will remain immutable, despite my not being an educator...

    But setting that truth aside; I am going to have to overtly challenge you to post the evidence of Beck being proven to have fabricated information and passed it along as truth.

    You should understand that your failure to do so will constitute your conceding to me, that your assertion is a fabrication, passed along as fact; ironically deomonstrating YOU to be precisely the fraud you've come to lament; and where you post evidence and it is found to be deceit... you'll enjoy a smidge of separation from that humiliation, but not sufficient to find much comfort I'm afraid.

    Which sort of places you between the devil and the deep blue Publius... now doesn't it?

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    Re: I Re: Glenn Beck launches online University

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    He does this so you won't catch the lies he is telling you.


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    TPM?

    ROFLMNAO... Sweet Mother... Why not just quote a DU thread?

    The coolest part of your post however is that neither you nor the resin caked minds of TPM could even bother to offer a contest of the Lecture's content.

    So I challenge ya... straight up Scooter. What about the lecture was inaccurate or 'factually challenged', if you prefer?

    Naturally, failure to prove the falsity in the lecture will constitute your concession to me, that despite your desperate desire to claim Beck's position and his guest lecturer is wrong... you've no means to prove otherwise...

    Which is at the end of the day, just really nasty stuff in terms of veracity, integrity and all that sort of simplistic, antiquated agrarian ethos...

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    Re: I Re: Glenn Beck launches online University

    Quote Originally Posted by PubliusInfinitu View Post
    TPM?

    ROFLMNAO... Sweet Mother... Why not just quote a DU thread?

    The coolest part of your post however is that neither you nor the resin caked minds of TPM could even bother to offer a contest of the Lecture's content.

    So I challenge ya... straight up Scooter. What about the lecture was inaccurate or 'factually challenged', if you prefer?

    Naturally, failure to prove the falsity in the lecture will constitute your concession to me, that despite your desperate desire to claim Beck's position and his guest lecturer is wrong... you've no means to prove otherwise...

    Which is at the end of the day, just really nasty stuff in terms of veracity, integrity and all that sort of simplistic, antiquated agrarian ethos...
    I didn't watch, but apparently Barton claimed that the Constitution was based on the Book of Deuteronomy. Can you prove this Sweet Meadow Melons?

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    Re: Glenn Beck launches online University

    Quote Originally Posted by PubliusInfinitu View Post
    ROFLMNAO... Are you appealing to the authority of "Journalists"? 'Cause it sure looks like ya are...
    Doesn't seem like you're understanding. A journalist is somebody who purports to be reporting information about the world. Glenn Beck doesn't even claim to be doing that... He says he is entertaining his audience instead... He doesn't even claim to deserve the blind faith you appear to be giving him... Seriously, just watch any 1 epsidode of his program. While you're watching, google every "factual" statement he makes. I'll bet you anything that at least one of them turns out to be a flat out fabrication...

    Quote Originally Posted by PubliusInfinitu View Post
    But setting that truth aside; I am going to have to overtly challenge you to post the evidence of Beck being proven to have fabricated information and passed it along as truth.
    You can't possibly seriously be challenging me on that point...

    Thar he blows,the lies of Glenn Beck the Great White Dope
    Scarborough: Beck segment on health care reform "connection[s]" "as confusing to me as it was to his guests" | Media Matters for America
    Fox News Boycott lies
    Will Fox News hold Beck to its Dan Rather standard? | Media Matters for America
    Note to Beck: Doors repaired with stimulus funds were hangar doors and did not cost $1.4 million | Media Matters for America
    News Corpse The Anatomy Of A Glenn Beck Lie:
    More Glenn Beck Lies Exposed
    Beck aired false claim that a union only needs 30 percent support from employees to be "established" | Media Matters for America
    Glenn Beck's Crazy Lies About Van Jones | Environment | AlterNet
    Beck falsely claimed average UAW worker makes $154 per hour | Media Matters for America
    Beck claims 9-12 protests "largest march on Washington ever" based on "overseas" reporting | Media Matters for America
    Beck calls Senate-confirmed Orszag a "czar" | Media Matters for America

    I mean, do you just not have google even? You could find 100 more in like 10 seconds...

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    Re: I Re: Glenn Beck launches online University

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    I didn't watch, but apparently Barton claimed that the Constitution was based on the Book of Deuteronomy. Can you prove this Sweet Meadow Melons?
    As a general rule, I don't spend much time disproving apparent supposition... I'd like to think that you've been misinformed... because the only other alternative is you're advancing that drivel knowing that it's not true, for the overt purpose of deceiving this board.

    The US Constitution was based upon the principles set forth in the US Constitution... principles which are founded in Christianity... which stems from Judaism...


    Are you actually trying to contest this?

    Before ya answer... You MAY want to spend some time considering The Grand Charter of Liberty... which preceded the US Constitution by a few years and was in large measure resting in the same principled understanding.

    I'm afraid I've some very bad news for ya here... Contrary to that of which you've been misinformed... America is defined by her keystone, immutable Christian founding principles. Those who recognize, respect and defend the unapologetic observance and practice of those principles are "Americans." Those who believe in the antithetis of those principles and otherwise contest and oppose those principles are Anti-Americans... and this without regard for citizenship or to geographic proximity.

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    Re: Glenn Beck launches online University

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    Doesn't seem like you're understanding. A journalist is somebody who purports to be reporting information about the world. Glenn Beck doesn't even claim to be doing that... He says he is entertaining his audience instead... He doesn't even claim to deserve the blind faith you appear to be giving him... Seriously, just watch any 1 epsidode of his program. While you're watching, google every "factual" statement he makes. I'll bet you anything that at least one of them turns out to be a flat out fabrication...



    You can't possibly seriously be challenging me on that point...

    Thar he blows,the lies of Glenn Beck the Great White Dope
    Scarborough: Beck segment on health care reform "connection[s]" "as confusing to me as it was to his guests" | Media Matters for America
    Fox News Boycott lies
    Will Fox News hold Beck to its Dan Rather standard? | Media Matters for America
    Note to Beck: Doors repaired with stimulus funds were hangar doors and did not cost $1.4 million | Media Matters for America
    News Corpse The Anatomy Of A Glenn Beck Lie:
    More Glenn Beck Lies Exposed
    Beck aired false claim that a union only needs 30 percent support from employees to be "established" | Media Matters for America
    Glenn Beck's Crazy Lies About Van Jones | Environment | AlterNet
    Beck falsely claimed average UAW worker makes $154 per hour | Media Matters for America
    Beck claims 9-12 protests "largest march on Washington ever" based on "overseas" reporting | Media Matters for America
    Beck calls Senate-confirmed Orszag a "czar" | Media Matters for America

    I mean, do you just not have google even? You could find 100 more in like 10 seconds...

    Oh so you want me to accept your urls as actual valid examples which validate your assertion...

    Sorry, that's not how it works...

    What you need to do, is to actually dig through your own disinformation, find your best shot, cull the information, quote it, build an intellectually sound, logically valid argument around your evidence, citing your source.

    Now be sure to get right back to me when you've managed to work up something resembling that minimal requirement.

    Otherwise, at some point I'll just recognize that you've conceded the point and opted not to formalize it...

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    Re: Glenn Beck launches online University

    Quote Originally Posted by PubliusInfinitu View Post
    Oh so you want me to accept your urls as actual valid examples which validate your assertion...

    Sorry, that's not how it works...

    What you need to do, is to actually dig through your own disinformation, find your best shot, cull the information, quote it, build an intellectually sound, logically valid argument around your evidence, citing your source.

    Now be sure to get right back to me when you've managed to work up something resembling that minimal requirement.

    Otherwise, at some point I'll just recognize that you've conceded the point and opted not to formalize it...
    What? I exceeded that requirement... There are like 25 clear cut examples I provided above... If you just don't want to read them, that is your problem, not mine.

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    Re: Glenn Beck launches online University

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    Doesn't seem like you're understanding. A journalist is somebody who purports to be reporting information about the world. Glenn Beck doesn't even claim to be doing that... He says he is entertaining his audience instead... He doesn't even claim to deserve the blind faith you appear to be giving him... Seriously, just watch any 1 epsidode of his program. While you're watching, google every "factual" statement he makes. I'll bet you anything that at least one of them turns out to be a flat out fabrication...
    False... Beck most decidedly does claim to be reporting information about the world. That he does so without boring the crap out of everyone provides him with the means to do so to a very large audience.

    Now this in stark contrast to the long since defunk Disp-Air America... MSNBC, CNN, the NY Times, Washington Post, sNews Week and other such impotent Leftist organs.

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