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    Re: Glenn Beck launches online University

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    I'll watch the first class later tonight and let you all know what it was about.
    Well, isn't this unexpected.
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    Re: Glenn Beck launches online University

    I'll stick with TTC and academic journals.
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    Re: Glenn Beck launches online University

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    I'll stick with TTC and academic journals.
    ROFLMNAO... Well then you may want to get in on Beck U... as the resources are founded in objective academics.

    And would you answer a question for me?

    You're listed as a "Centrist"... How are you defining that?

    Is it to imply that you're of a sufficient intellect to recognize that the best solution is one which rests in compromise, taking equal measure of right and wrong?

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    Re: Glenn Beck launches online University

    Review of Glenn's new endeavor on Reason.com:

    Beck U - Reason Magazine

    The author corrects some of Glenn's historical details:

    The Communist Party of the United States didn’t start as the “Communist Working Party” in 1917.

    It is not true that “if you were a Marxist” in 1960s, you were a “Soviet sympathizer,” as former members of the International Socialists can attest.

    The Nazis did not “learn propaganda” from Woodrow Wilson.

    Beck says that “Most of Europe was preparing for war in 1917.” Europe had been at war since 1914; the Americans joined in in 1917.

    The Venona decrypts were not “released in the 1980s,” when the Soviet Union was still in business, but in 1995. Nor was Venona “compiled” by the KGB; Venona was the codename given by United States intelligence services to the collection of intercepts. Incidentally, Beck, demonstrating his lack of familiarity with the subject matter, stumbles when identifying Venona, first calling them the “Verona papers.”

    No one claims Castro was “democratically-elected,” except, perhaps, the brothers Castro themselves.
    Obama’s mother, who grew up in Kansas, did not attend the Elisabeth Irwin School (“The Little Red Schoolhouse”) in New York City.

    Beck’s history of late Weimar Germany manages to be both totally incoherent and completely wrong, such as this comparison of the German Communist Party (KPD) and the Nazis: “The National Socialists, the Nazis, did round up the communists. OK? But the communists, they rounded up the store owners first. Nazis, number two. The old and infirm. Number two on communist's list, farmers and landowners. Three, I think it was Jewish on both sides.”
    A list of “1963 communist goals from the Communist Party USA (CPUSA)” Beck presented on his television show (and available here on his website) are not from the CPUSA, but reprinted from The Naked Communist, a bizarre book of conspiracy authored by John Birch Society lunatic Cleon Skousen.

    In the aftermath of the Israeli attack on the Gaza flotilla, Beck argued that anti-Semitism is the inevitable byproduct of socialism. “Socialism and anti-Semitism have complemented each other throughout history.” “How many [Jews] have to die,” Beck asks, “to remember who keeps killing them?” The idea that anti-Semitism flourishes under left-wing regimes because Jews are associated with capitalism is certainly true, though it ignores the long history of far-right anti-Semitism and the Tsarist-era pogroms and blood libels. In far-right circles, Jews, like Bela Kun and Leon Trotsky, were associated with communism and the revolutionary left.

    It is apparent that Beck the history preacher isn’t terribly familiar with the very material that so fascinates him, as demonstrated by his difficulty keeping names straight. The former FSB agent poisoned in 2006 was Alexander Litvinenko, not Alexander Lavinko. The Soviet agent accused of “losing China” was Lauchlin Currie, not “Laurie” Currie. His fellow agent in the Silvermaster group was Harry Dexter White, not “Harry Dexter.” During a brief digression into the activities of the Baader-Meinhof groups, Beck received a little help from off-camera: “In the 1970s, the left wing German terrorist, Ulrike Meinhof, he sounds friendly. He said—oh, it's a she?”
    Interestingly enough:

    Beck doesn’t demonstrate the perils of autodidacticism, but the perils of learning the subject while at the same time attempting to teach it.
    Ah, but Reason Magazine writers and editors are just shills for the progressives, right?
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    Re: Glenn Beck launches online University

    Quote Originally Posted by PubliusInfinitu View Post
    ROFLMNAO... Well then you may want to get in on Beck U... as the resources are founded in objective academics.

    And would you answer a question for me?

    You're listed as a "Centrist"... How are you defining that?

    Is it to imply that you're of a sufficient intellect to recognize that the best solution is one which rests in compromise, taking equal measure of right and wrong?
    At least he labels his lean. I notice that you do not. Are you ashamed to list it?

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    Re: Glenn Beck launches online University

    I believe Beck is just chasing the dollar. Recall that he recently released a fiction book he wrote and now this crap. Calling his crap "University" strikes me as very strange since he claims to consider himself only an entertainer. (Check that, I think he says he wants to entertain AND enlighten-bah!)

    I hate the whole pitch about online classes. I had to take a class at my university in which it was only offered online. The whole online thing takes you out of the classroom where the give and take occurs. I knew many of the people in the online class and we would have preferred to actually go to class as you miss the interaction. I would widely encourage older adults to consider going back to real university if they are serious about having a learning experience.

    Beck talks about the need to know history, but you need to start with understanding where history comes from. Who writes the books? What evidence do they use in making claims regarding what really happened? History is far from being an exact science but the key is not simply considering the evidence that supports your theory. It also requires critical thinking beyond simple memorization that occurs in high school. I sincerely hope that people reject this crap. I'm sure if few people sign up, they'll pull the plug. I even feel a little sorry for people who fall for this crap.

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    Re: Glenn Beck launches online University

    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggae_6 View Post
    I believe Beck is just chasing the dollar. Recall that he recently released a fiction book he wrote and now this crap. Calling his crap "University" strikes me as very strange since he claims to consider himself only an entertainer. (Check that, I think he says he wants to entertain AND enlighten-bah!)
    He called it that just to annoy people like you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggae_6 View Post
    I hate the whole pitch about online classes. I had to take a class at my university in which it was only offered online. The whole online thing takes you out of the classroom where the give and take occurs. I knew many of the people in the online class and we would have preferred to actually go to class as you miss the interaction. I would widely encourage older adults to consider going back to real university if they are serious about having a learning experience.
    You don't have to go to formal school to learn what is taught in formal school. One of the smartest people I know doesn't have a college degree. He just reads a lot and thinks a lot. Many of our greatest Americans were self-taught.


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    I Re: Glenn Beck launches online University

    I just watched the first class.

    Faith was the subject. I already knew most of it, but it was a nice refresher. He (David Barton) discussed the early preachers who influenced our Founders' beliefs including Rev. John Wise and Rev. George Whitfield among others. He mentioned how some sermons at that time were political. This rubbed me the wrong way, honestly. I'm fine with preachers discussing how we're all equal and free, but I don't like it when preachers talk about certain policies and how they should be passed, etc. I don't think my preacher should be preaching that the AZ law is good or bad, for example. It's not the job of a preacher to influence his congregation how to vote in political elections. It IS the job of a preacher to influence his congregation what to do about their spiritual life. Then allow the members to determine themselves what policies follow the will of God.

    He spoke of how it wasn't just Paul Revere, but also Wentworth Cheswell (a black patriot) also warned the colonies of the British coming. Not sure what they had to do with faith...I kinda tuned out after that. I'm busy making sun tea and trying not to fall asleep.

    Overall I give the class a C. I knew most of it so it was kinda boring, but it was interesting the first time I heard it. And David Barton talks way too fast.

    Time for tea and maybe a nap. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz....


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    Re: I Re: Glenn Beck launches online University

    Having the noted scholar* David Barton on his show is one way to build credibility for GBU.








    *noted for falsifying quotes by the founding fathers in his books.

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    Re: Glenn Beck launches online University

    Quote Originally Posted by PubliusInfinitu View Post
    ROFLMNAO...

    Oh they ARE a difficult thing to pin down, those progressives... They're not socialists, while simultaneous being socialists... and isn't it cool how only the Socialists 'do their own research'... which we can be sure does NOT include listening to Glenn Beck, but instead includes perusing the Liberal Echo-chamber of Alternet... The KOS and other such subversive elements of the communist insurgency.
    Just noticed that this thread is beginning to derail a bit. Wasn't the original topic something about the ivy covered walls of Glenn Beck's brain?
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