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    Re: Glenn Beck launches online University

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    Some people do not pay income taxes.
    They pay regressive taxes. Which brings in a whole lot more dough proportionately.

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    Re: Glenn Beck launches online University

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    Some people do not pay income taxes.
    True. I remember what Leona Helmsley said. "Only the little people pay taxes".

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    My main point is that you CAN be moderate, independant, centrist, liberal, libertarian, and at the same time dislike or disagree with Beck.

    People tend to link Progressivism and Liberalism. Although alike they are infact different.

    They both feel that the world is dynamic and everchanging.

    Although Progressives (centre-Left) tend to be more focused on politics. Changing as historically present.

    Liberalism is founded on the idea of protecting rights of life, liberty, and property.

    Although they tend to agree on most issues, there are issues that they disagree on.

    Naturally If a moderate does not agree on Becks ideas of American Principles, they are in his idea progressive.

    The thing is you can still be a moderate and dislike or disagree with Beck. Regardless if you are centre-left, or absolutely agree with said American Principles.

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    Re: Glenn Beck launches online University

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    Some people do not pay income taxes.
    Damn right they dont. I always...... ALWAYS hear my wealthy friends and family getting money BACK. Now how the hell does THAT happen!??!
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    Re: Glenn Beck launches online University

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    Some people do not pay income taxes.
    That's not what I was responding to. You said "liberals tax the rich". I said, "No, they [liberals] tax everyone."
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    Re: Glenn Beck launches online University

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    Damn right they dont. I always...... ALWAYS hear my wealthy friends and family getting money BACK. Now how the hell does THAT happen!??!
    When you overpay your taxes during the year, you are entitled to the difference. That doesn't mean your friends and family don't pay taxes. I always tried to pay in more than I owed, just to make sure I wouldn't owe anything at the end of the year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    This is actually far more abhorent than anything beck has ever done.
    I don't see why. I see Beck doing this on a daily basis with just as much enthusiasm. Beck just isn't begging for money as forward as they are. Just think of it as insignificant liberals trying desperately to be significant on the internet with the PBS telethon mentality.
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    Re: Glenn Beck launches online University

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    of course i don't hate him. in fact, he's a great business man, an entertainer with an audience of sheep. he's tapped into the insecurities of people much as hitler did. don't go off the deep end, i'm not saying he is as evil as hitler, i'm simply saying he knows how to manipulate his audience.

    i have to add: an audience who buys his crap paintings.
    Some days I wonder if Hitler knew he would become hated for his actions and compared to everything short of swiss cheese at nearly every possible occasion.

    If you knew it was a cheap grab, why go for it?

    I don't like Beck, but must you reduce yourself to yet another trite comparison of Hitler?
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    Re: Glenn Beck launches online University

    Quote Originally Posted by LimeLight View Post
    My main point is that you CAN be moderate, independant, centrist, liberal, libertarian, and at the same time dislike or disagree with Beck.

    People tend to link Progressivism and Liberalism. Although alike they are infact different.

    They both feel that the world is dynamic and everchanging.

    Although Progressives (centre-Left) tend to be more focused on politics. Changing as historically present.

    Liberalism is founded on the idea of protecting rights of life, liberty, and property.

    Although they tend to agree on most issues, there are issues that they disagree on.

    Naturally If a moderate does not agree on Becks ideas of American Principles, they are in his idea progressive.

    The thing is you can still be a moderate and dislike or disagree with Beck. Regardless if you are centre-left, or absolutely agree with said American Principles.
    just to point out; by the time of the 1930's, 'Progressivism' as a name-brand had been pretty thoroughly tarnished - actually post Wilson it was pretty thoroughly tarnished. Dewey and other leading Progressives made the concious decision to appropriate the name 'Liberal' for themselves in order to try new branding for the same movement. 'Liberalism' as we know it in popular politics today has distinct differences from the 'Liberalism' you are describing, which was based on the concept of negative rights and limiting the power of the state. Liberalism (today's version) has also begun to run into the same problem as Dewey and his cohorts did; which is why (entertainingly) so many of them are now beginning to describe themselves as "progressives" again.

    now, some elements of the old Progressives have been left behind. Temperance, for example. but the core assumptions (that 'freedom' is something provided you by the state; that 'management' of human interaction is better than allowing people to run around doing whatever they want; etc) are still there.



    frankly, i think this whole thread is hilarious. an entire segment of the American populace is beginning to seriously self-educate about the founding ideals and history of this country.... and all half of you can do.... is make fun of them .

    well that's okay. we have something for that
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    Re: Glenn Beck launches online University

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    Dear Liberal Avenger,



    Tea Party Inc. is dangerous and must be investigated, exposed and fought at every turn.

    WILL YOU HELP US?


    For many of us the summer is off to a hot start. But the summer heat is nothing compared to the meltdown our political system could suffer if the Tea Party hits the boiling point -- and succeeds in recruiting millions of angry voters to swing November's election with the promise of a national right-wing agenda.

    Right now, the "enthusiasm gap" -- the difference between the positive feelings Republicans have about voting for GOP candidates versus how the Democrats feel about voting for their own -- has a 35-point spread, according to a recent Gallup poll. It's the largest gap since the data has been counted1. And many progressives, liberals and Democrats are in denial, not tuned in to what is happening in Tea Party-land.

    AlterNet is working 24/7 to expose the Tea Party, its funders and cheerleaders. Our urgent, clarion call to progressives and Democrats: "Wake up before it's too late!" And you can help us get our wake-up call out to the people who need to hear it.

    Fox, Beck and the Tea Party: An Ugly Combination

    This right-wing "enthusiasm" is being generated by the conservative message machine, led by Fox News and frequently echoed by corporate media. Right-wing propaganda is having a major impact, tapping into the resentment of working people across the country, and millions of unemployed Americans.

    Glenn Beck, man of many lies and emotional breakdowns, is the chief cheerleader for the Tea Party. Beck is willing to say just about anything, and he often does. For example, Beck recently stated that President Obama didn't want to meet with BP CEO Tony Hayward, because Hayward is "a white CEO."2 Beck has called the progressive movement a "cancer" that was "designed to eat the Constitution," and declared that Obama has "a deep-seated hatred of white people."3

    We have to push back very hard against Glenn Beck -- because with Beck and the Tea Party, a dangerous brew is steaming up around the country.

    Beware of Tea Party Inc.

    AlterNet's editorial team has concluded that behind the kooky signs and incoherent rage of Tea Party supporters is a powerful cartel of right-wing interests with very deep pockets. Call them Tea Party Inc. -- a cabal of high-priced political operatives, lobbying groups and for-profit conservative media who fuel this furious right-wing emergence under the Tea Party brand.

    Tea Party Inc. is dangerous and must be investigated, exposed and fought at every turn. At AlterNet, we refuse to bury our heads in the sand, and we're not afraid to sound the alarm on this growing right-wing threat. But to do it right, AlterNet needs your help.



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    Dear Don,

    Having read your recent correspondence, I find you to be a major element of the insurgency that is subverting the American culture.

    My impression sir, is that you are either part and parcel of a covert organization, not at all unlike and very possibly part and parcel of the Communist Insurgency recently discovered and arrested, or you're simply one of sub-par intellectual means, simply lacking the minimal cogntive means to recognize deceit and fraud when you are exposed to it. As such and to be on the safe side, I have forwarded your correspondence on to the Federal Bureau of Investigation, for their consideration.

    Ordinarily, I would have simply done so without offering you the benefit of this information; but I feel the highest likelihood is that you're simply a addled-minded dupe, who has bought into this subversive ideology and not an actual active member of a covert insurgency; and as such deserving of the benefit of the doubt; either way, you're a menace to the culture at large and I doubt that you'd be surprised by any investigation regarding your loyalty to the principles that define America.

    In my experience, people advocating the species of reasoning such as that inherent in your correspondence, do not possess the intelllectual steam to recognize sound reasoning; and this, sadly, includes circumstances where one is exposed to such in stark detail; but despite such and with that said, I thought it worth yet another try... so towards that end, please allow me the opportunity to demonstrate just one small example of where your letter demonstrates a despicable fraud.

    You assert that there exist in the TEA Party "incoherent rage". Now Don, the TEA Party has made it abundantly clear to all but the least common intellectual denominator, that their outrage is anchored in the same steam, which sustained the rage over the Bush deficit spending, which you should recall, reached an unthinkable 350 BILLION DOLLARS at it's peak... and the laughable promise that it was the Ideological Left riding within the Democrat Party that would return the nation to 'fiscal responsibility'; and further recall Don, that your party then immediately went to work converting the 350 billion high-water mark, to a 1.5 TRILLION dollar deficit. A FIGURE 2/3rds LARGER THAN ANY OF THE EIGHT ANNUAL REAGAN BUDGETS. This 'Rage', Don, was then understandably re-doubled when the Democrats and the BOY King DOUBLED DOWN AND PROJECTED THAT THEY WOULD SPEND ANOTHER 1.5 TRILLION IN DEFICIT THE FOLLOWING YEAR... and this without regard to the ADDITIONAL TRILLIONS which will be required in Budget to meet the legislation they deceptively FORCED upon the nation with regard to Obama HealthsCare; along with the oppressive, un-American trampling of the natural, individual human responsibilities and rights that such legislation requires, and quite by default.

    So Don, that Alternet, FKA: Common Dreams: The Liberal Echo-Chamber, lacks the coherency to recognize the source of the TEA Party rage, is irrelevant to any discussion, except that which focuses upon why the Ideological Left should be dismissed and otherwise forbidden from participating in the equation that is US Governance; as you people are not Americans, nor anything APPROACHING AMERICANS; you have no concept of what America is and wholly reject the immutable, natural principles which otherwise define this great country; a nation in which you serve no other purpose than to undermine that which has made her exceptional.

    Thank you for your time and best of luck with your looming federal investigation,

    Publius Infinitum

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