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    Re: Glenn Beck launches online University

    Quote Originally Posted by LimeLight View Post
    Sorry i meant "said progressives as liberals" I'll edit that. But being liberal and being progressive isn't the same.
    Agreed. What do you think the difference is?


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    Re: Glenn Beck launches online University

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    Agreed. What do you think the difference is?
    I believe there's a difference in the approach of being progressive and the approach of being liberal.

    Progressive is more of using governmental power as a force for an issue.

    Liberal is more of tax and spend approach.

    It all depends on your outlook of the derogatory.

    I feel Glenn Beck links many aspects of being progressive, being liberal, and being socialist into one big goulash labeling it as an Anti-American tyranny seeking New World Order. But hey, if the narrative sells that's all the media really cares about in this era. The only reason I don't watch Beck is because he comes off to me as a conspiracist. I'm just not into that kind of stuff. I would much rather listen to someone I would consider reasonable in these unreasonable times.
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    Re: Glenn Beck launches online University

    Quote Originally Posted by LimeLight View Post
    I would much rather listen to someone I would consider reasonable in these unreasonable times.
    Who would that be?


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    Re: Glenn Beck launches online University

    I vary on a lot of issues. I tend to be more conservative when it comes to foreign policy but more liberal culturally. I haven't found someone i agree 100% on. But i don't have to agree with someone to consider them reasonable. As long as they can make somewhat of a legitimate issue and debate it in a civil manner, I'll listen. But once they scream tyranny or use irrational contrast to support their narrative, it turns me off. I can listen to a lot of news anchors on Fox, MSNBC, and CNN without tearing my hair out. Bias isn't my issue because i can distinguish the difference.
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    Re: Glenn Beck launches online University

    Quote Originally Posted by PubliusInfinitu View Post
    ROFLMNAO! Serious political analysis founded upon the heady intellectual perch of "Comedy Central".

    The best part is they're PROUD AS HELL of it... But hey, that's the nature of Populism... it's empty and meaningless... PRIME for the imparting of deceit and fraud.
    I nominate you for CC's new bobo doll. You are in an asshole class of your self, bitch.

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    Re: Glenn Beck launches online University

    Quote Originally Posted by LimeLight View Post
    Again you should seek to educate yourselves on other points of view other then yourself. Earlier you labeled a libertarian as a "leftie". You have absolutely no idea what your talking about and you really need to educate yourself. I worry about people like you.
    ROFL... Well Liberals are groping for a new label and "Libertarian" seems to be the next 'best chance'... But all one needs to know of a given person's ideology, is to see those positions with which they agree. When one is agreeing with a Moderate, Centrist, Mainstream Progressive, it's a pretty fair bet, that one is a Leftist.

    Quote Originally Posted by LimeLight View Post
    But the odds require that SOONER OR LATER... they'll eventually produce an argument wherein they demonstrate that rejecting American principle can potentially provide the bearer with the means to ADHERE TO THE CORRELATING TITLE.

    And yes... this is a backhanded challenge to simply state where you've the means to disagree with Beck, by showing where he was inaccurate and has wrongly represented the facts, providing for a valid means to disagree... and NOT be recognized as a Progressive anti-American.

    It's not a particularly complex equation ..

    Also i never stated that he was wrong or supported inaccurate facts. I believe that was someone else. So i have never engaged in a debate with you. I was simply pointing out you were wrong in your claim of "Leftists trying to pawn themselves off as Moderate, Centrist, Main-stream independents." Also if you believe those that disagree with Beck are Progressive Anti-American, I once again urge you to educate yourself.
    Sweet default concession...

    Reasonable people do not disagree with intellectually sound, logically valid, immutable natural principle and then claim to adhere to such. Ya see, those are mutually exclusive, diametrically opposing positions.

    Reasonable people can however claim to disagree with a position, by demonstrating that the position is logically invalid, intellectually unsound in a countering position, which either either discredits or refutes that position.

    Again, it's not a complex concept.

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    Re: Glenn Beck launches online University

    I guess Pub isn't talking to me anymore.


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    Re: Glenn Beck launches online University

    Quote Originally Posted by PubliusInfinitu View Post
    ROFL... Well Liberals are groping for a new label and "Libertarian" seems to be the next 'best chance'... But all one needs to know of a given person's ideology, is to see those positions with which they agree. When one is agreeing with a Moderate, Centrist, Mainstream Progressive, it's a pretty fair bet, that one is a Leftist.



    Sweet default concession...
    If you wish to learn about political parties and ideals, I believe there is a post on these forums to do so. I don't need any type of reasonable and sound counter argument to tell you a libertarian is not a liberal. If you wish to truly distinguish the difference I suggest visiting that thread. Further argument with you is not 'reasonable' to me. By default, using your irrational claims, I choose to not argue with someone of your magnitude. Doing so will most likely result in throwing this thread completely off-topic. If you wish to understand other parties, I urge you to do research, then we will have an intellectually sound discussion. I believe Mellie wishes to know why you think libertarians are leftists. Perhaps you should start there.

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    Re: Glenn Beck launches online University

    Quote Originally Posted by PubliusInfinitu View Post
    And Beck has NEVER misrepresented anything that the BOY-King has said and I challenge you here and now to post the evidence on which your assertion SPECIFICALLY STANDS or forever accept that you've exposed yourself as a lying fool for having suggested as much.
    Please visit this thread in Bias:

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/bias-m...ion-video.html

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    Re: Glenn Beck launches online University

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    Liberals are progressives.
    No, Beck seems to think so, but as he so often is, this is untrue.
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