To be fair, you can read Steele's comments a couple of different ways. I don't think he is saying that Obama started the war, but by continuing the same policy as the previous administration it is a choice to continue going to war with Afghanistan. The other comments about Afghanistan being an untenable location for victory are applicable to any administration going to war with that region.
I mean, Obama supporters think that the war policy has changed. It hasn't. It has basically been a continuation of Bush era policy. The difference is that Obama fed us the notion that we would be starting a gradual withdrawal by now, when actually it's the opposite. More troops and dollars are being committed.
Moderator's Warning: Everyone needs to calm down, cease the flaming, and get back on topic
"I am appalled that somebody who is the nominee...would take that kind of position"
"A court took away a presidency"
"...the brother of a man running for president was the governor of the state..."
It's horrifying because Trump is blunt instead of making overt implications.
However the war in Afghanistan is more believable in so far as it was Al Quaeda who at that time were being sheltered by the Taliban in Afghanistan, who were responsible for the atrocities of 911.
What is perhaps being totally ignored is who initially armed Al Quaeda.
So just to get this particular record straight, it was largely through the actions of one Charlie Wilson, who seeing a chance to inflict a defeat on Soviet forces, pursuaded Congress to deliver the cash and armaments to allow Al Quaeda to be more effective against the Soviets.
Which in fact they turned out to be remarkably effective in compelling Soviet Russia to remove their forces from Afghanistan.
This does not detract from the fact that Afghanistan has never been defeated and held as a conquered nation by any other nation.
It may well be defeatist of me but IMO I doubt it can be militarily defeated.
Afghanistan is run albeit by a central government that absolutely has to have agreement from the Clans/Tribes that live in the Country, without their direct agreement, nothing works.
I also do not like that the war was something that the United States did not want to engage, when in fact, we truly did and to a large degree (though declining), still do.
No matter how you put it, he will upset a large segment of the GOP as well as give Democrats more talking points.
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