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    Re: Obama Administration Announces Massive Piracy Crackdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    Confusing Words and Phrases That Are Worth Avoiding - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation (FSF)

    No Sherlock here, but, I take the point that it is an act of "unauthorized copying" not thievery or piracy. It is wrong.
    Why is it wrong?

    The person only has to work once and then gets to profit from it indefinitely?
    How can people like you call for profit medical care morally wrong but then do an about face and say that a person, who records an album once, is allowed to profit from it forever?

    Why should people be allowed to restrict cultural and intellectual information, when it costs them virtually nothing to make additional copies of it?
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    Re: Obama Administration Announces Massive Piracy Crackdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Gay marriage isn't legal, are you ok with that?

    Legal ≠ right
    Gay marriage is about social justice which has nothing to do with unauthorized copying.
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    Re: Obama Administration Announces Massive Piracy Crackdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    Gay marriage is about social justice which has nothing to do with unauthorized copying.
    You said that copyright infringement was illegal.
    I'm just pointing out that not everything illegal is wrong and not everything legal is right.
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    Re: Obama Administration Announces Massive Piracy Crackdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Why is it wrong? …
    I am not a lawyer but my understanding is that it is wrong because you obtain usage rights which do not include the right to duplicate. Making copies violates the terms of your agreement with the owner of the copyright.
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    Re: Obama Administration Announces Massive Piracy Crackdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    I am not a lawyer but my understanding is that it is wrong because you obtain usage rights which do not include the right to duplicate. Making copies violates the terms of your agreement with the owner of the copyright.
    Unfortunately for the maker, they sold all their rights to ownership when the exchange took place.
    They have no reasonable expectation of control over the "thing" because it is intangible, that they sold.

    I sign no contracts when I purchase an item like a DVD or CD.
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    Re: Obama Administration Announces Massive Piracy Crackdown

    Quote Originally Posted by R. Shackleferd View Post
    … Many times I have heard arguments against information "piracy" about how it costs information companies a great deal of profit and also contributes to job loss. …
    And …

    You heard that unauthorized copying costs publishers profit and contributes to job loss and … what?

    Do you think that debatepolitics generates intellectual property? I thought of it more as a service. Does debatepolitics copyright its threads? I don't think so. But, do go on …
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    Re: Obama Administration Announces Massive Piracy Crackdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    … I sign no contracts when I purchase an item like a DVD or CD.
    It is sufficient that the little c with the circle around it (©) with the year is present on the packaging and/or the label.
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    Re: Obama Administration Announces Massive Piracy Crackdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    It is sufficient that the little c with the circle around it (©) with the year is present on the packaging and/or the label.
    Reality presents a different story.
    All you will do by restricting online file sharing, is make the bootleggers popular again.
    Either way, the RIAA/MPAA isn't going to get what they want.

    We can wish that little ©'s make an item protected but it doesn't.
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    Re: Obama Administration Announces Massive Piracy Crackdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    You heard that unauthorized copying costs publishers profit and contributes to job loss and … what?
    And by mentioning cut profits and job loss, I continued my argument against the principles of intellectual property aggression by addressing the possible (if not evident, which, it is) profit cuts and job loss that publishers, advertisers and individuals suffer thanks to intellectual property aggression.

    Do you think that debatepolitics generates intellectual property? I thought of it more as a service. Does debatepolitics copyright its threads? I don't think so. But, do go on …
    I'm not talking about debatepolitics.com's intellectual property aggression being infringed upon. I'm talking about the premise where debatepolitics.com infringes on someone else's intellectual property aggression.

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    Re: Obama Administration Announces Massive Piracy Crackdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Reality presents a different story.
    All you will do by restricting online file sharing, is make the bootleggers popular again.
    Either way, the RIAA/MPAA isn't going to get what they want.

    We can wish that little ©'s make an item protected but it doesn't.
    Do you think that your endorsement of unauthorized copying in contravention of the law impacts others? I do.
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