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    Re: Obama Administration Announces Massive Piracy Crackdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Difference between this and everything else: I have a legal option...
    I can write the photographer and request permission to "put a permanent backup of this photo on file just in case something happens to the printed copy" - once they say yes (they always do) then I can put it on my computer and print it off all I like.
    You really need to get a copyright release. But even with out one there really is no way to enforce copyright with all the billions of images out there.

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    Re: Obama Administration Announces Massive Piracy Crackdown

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    You really need to get a copyright release. But even with out one there really is no way to enforce copyright with all the billions of images out there.
    Exactly - there should be legal options which people shoudl be encouraged to follow in order to gain more control of the copyright . . and that which they have purchased.

    and there's no way to enforce copyrights with all the billions of images out there . . . which isi why I feel it's a waste of time.
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    Re: Obama Administration Announces Massive Piracy Crackdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Exactly - there should be legal options which people shoudl be encouraged to follow in order to gain more control of the copyright . . and that which they have purchased.

    and there's no way to enforce copyrights with all the billions of images out there . . . which isi why I feel it's a waste of time.
    Yep it is a waste of time any many photographers have closed up shop.

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    Re: Obama Administration Announces Massive Piracy Crackdown

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Yep it is a waste of time any many photographers have closed up shop.
    Yet I don't think copyright issues are really *the* reason.
    This is likely because more and more people can take their own *very* professional looking photos - something I've been doing for years. It's a fraction of the cost and my backdrops are much more surreal (like the Grand Canyon and the Pacific Ocean)
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    Re: Obama Administration Announces Massive Piracy Crackdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    Point taken.
    i don't understand all the fuss here. does this law prohibit artists from sharing their own material gratis? if not, then what's the big deal?

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    Re: Obama Administration Announces Massive Piracy Crackdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Is not the tangible product the song itself. Which is generally copywrited

    It is the song itself that the artist created, and uses to make money

    GM produces a car and makes multiple copies of it to make money, it is illegal for Ford to copy the design of a GM car and produce it. GM lost no tangible object but what Ford did is illegal and it would be punished for it

    As such making copies of a song, and giving it out to other people is infringing on the artists rights to that song.

    In my opinion

    Making copies for personal use is fine, making copies to distribute to potentially thousands of other people is in effect theft
    for personal use, as long as you pay for that first copy.

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    Re: Obama Administration Announces Massive Piracy Crackdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Yet I don't think copyright issues are really *the* reason.
    Reprints are the bread and butter of the portrait biz.


    This is likely because more and more people can take their own *very* professional looking photos - something I've been doing for years. It's a fraction of the cost and my backdrops are much more surreal (like the Grand Canyon and the Pacific Ocean)
    Yeah that has had an effect too.

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    Re: Obama Administration Announces Massive Piracy Crackdown

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Reprints are the bread and butter of the portrait biz.
    Fallacy, then, of the business - it's unsustainable.

    Yeah that has had an effect too.
    Instead of embracing advances in technology and marketing on it to survive with it - they tried to exist with it and that just doesn't work when a technology which outdates your abilities becomes more affordable.
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    Re: Obama Administration Announces Massive Piracy Crackdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Fallacy, then, of the business - it's unsustainable.
    People breaking copyright laws is a fallacy of the business? Hmm I guess stealing is okay then too.



    Instead of embracing advances in technology and marketing on it to survive with it - they tried to exist with it and that just doesn't work when a technology which outdates your abilities becomes more affordable.
    Huh?

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    Re: Obama Administration Announces Massive Piracy Crackdown

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    People breaking copyright laws is a fallacy of the business? Hmm I guess stealing is okay then too.
    What? We're off topic, now - discussing the pro-photo industry.
    You said the bread and butter of the industry was reprints . . . and I'm stating that is, now, is it's downfall (I used fallacy - that was the wrong term) - it depended on something that could no longer sustain the business *for* money and didn't branch out into anything else to make money on after the market changed.

    Now we're discussing business strategy . . . which is part of the reason why the entertainment companies believe they're suffering.
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