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    Re: Texas GOP Platform Advocates Criminalizing Gay Marriage, Banning Strip Clubs...

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    Genetic Fallacy
    How is it a genetic fallacy? The guy runs a pure anti-gay website, therefore you take what he says understanding his bias. Secondly the studies in which he quotes never say anything over 50% were because of homosexuals. One study has it was 34-36% and the second said 45% had homosexual experiences, not that they were homosexual. Third and I will repeat this. The man is obviously anti-gay and was kicked out of the APA for Ethical Principles. Therefore the source you linked is not creditable.

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    Re: Texas GOP Platform Advocates Criminalizing Gay Marriage, Banning Strip Clubs...

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    Your source has no merit. Not even a court of law buys Cameron's BS.

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    Re: Texas GOP Platform Advocates Criminalizing Gay Marriage, Banning Strip Clubs...

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    How is it a genetic fallacy? The guy runs a pure anti-gay website, therefore you take what he says understanding his bias. Secondly the studies in which he quotes never say anything over 50% were because of homosexuals. One study has it was 34-36% and the second said 45% had homosexual experiences, not that they were homosexual. Third and I will repeat this. The man is obviously anti-gay and was kicked out of the APA for Ethical Principles. Therefore the source you linked is not creditable.
    The APA was foreced to accept the gay agenda due to political reasons. If you reject Cameron then you must also reject them.

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    Re: Texas GOP Platform Advocates Criminalizing Gay Marriage, Banning Strip Clubs...

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Your source has no merit. Not even a court of law buys Cameron's BS.
    Link to evidence please.

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    Re: Texas GOP Platform Advocates Criminalizing Gay Marriage, Banning Strip Clubs...

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    Its not baseless to assume that a man who gets exicted about a male body is gay.
    It is when you're talking about a person who gets excited by a pre-pubescent.

    Nice try. The fact is, however, that a higher percentage of gays are pedophiles than the percentage of straights that are pedophiles, and by a large margin.
    LMFAO I'd LOVE to see evidence of that so-called "fact". Because your link [even if we pretend that it's factual in the slightest ] shows that the majority of child molesters are heterosexuals. And not only that, but MALE. Overwhelmingly MALE. If we follow your [non] logic, men shouldn't be allowed around children at all.

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    Re: Texas GOP Platform Advocates Criminalizing Gay Marriage, Banning Strip Clubs...

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    The APA was foreced to accept the gay agenda due to political reasons. If you reject Cameron then you must also reject them.
    He didn't get kicked out for not agreeing with them. He got kicked out because he violated their Ethical Principles. Besides the studies that he uses don't say what he was saying.

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    Re: Texas GOP Platform Advocates Criminalizing Gay Marriage, Banning Strip Clubs...

    Not every Texan agree with the extremist of the Texan Republican party, since as a person who was born in Houston Texas, and lives in Humble Texas I say they are ****en nuts to think that they are going to ban strip club with out a fight. Since Strip club are part of the GDP of Texas.

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    Re: Texas GOP Platform Advocates Criminalizing Gay Marriage, Banning Strip Clubs...

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    Genetic Fallacy
    Something to help you understand how things work. You present credible evidence to back a source. Discounting a source based on a history of bias is not a genetic fallacy. The idea is not being discounted because of the source, it is being discounted because you have presented zero credible evidence to support the idea.
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    Re: Texas GOP Platform Advocates Criminalizing Gay Marriage, Banning Strip Clubs...

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    The author of that article is not reliable:

    Cameron's credibility was also questioned outside of academia. In his written opinion in Baker v. Wade (1985), Judge Buchmeyer of the U.S. District Court of Dallas referred to "Cameron's sworn statement that 'homosexuals abuse children at a proportionately greater incident than do heterosexuals,'" and concluded that "Dr. Paul Cameron...has himself made misrepresentations to this Court" and that "There has been no fraud or misrepresentations except by Dr. Cameron" (p.536).9

    1Biographical information obtained from various sources, including Cameron's curriculum vitae, Who's Who in the West, 26th Edition, 25th Edition; Who's Who in America, 52nd Edition, 51st Edition, 50th Edition. (return to text)

    2Walter, D. (1985, October 29). Paul Cameron. The Advocate, pp. 28-33. (return to text)

    3Fettner, A.G. (1985, September 23). The evil that men do. New York Native, pp. 23-24. (return to text)

    4Pietrzyk, M.E. (1994, October 3). Queer science: Paul Cameron, professional sham. The New Republic, pp. 10-12. (return to text)

    5Notice: Persons dropped from membership in the American Psychological Association. (1984). Internal communication from APA to all members. (return to text)

    6The full NPA resolution read as follows:

    The science and profession of psychology in Nebraska as represented by the Nebraska Psychological Association, formally dissociates itself from the representations and interpretations of scientific literature offered by Dr. Paul Cameron in his writings and public statements on sexuality. Further, the Nebraska Psychological Association would like it known that Dr. Cameron is not a member of the Association. Dr. Cameron was recently dropped from membership in the American Psychological Association for a violation of the Preamble to the Ethical Principles of Psychologists.

    [Nebraska Psychological Association. (1984, October 19). Resolution. Minutes of the Nebraska Psychological Association. Omaha, Nebraska: Author.] (return to text)

    7A copy of the full ASA resolution in Acrobat PDF format can be downloaded. It read as follows:

    WHEREAS Dr. Paul Cameron, a psychologist, was dropped from membership in The American Psychological Association for violation of the Preamble to the Ethical Principles of Psychologists;

    WHEREAS Dr. Paul Cameron has been presented in the media as a sociologist;

    WHEREAS Dr. Paul Cameron has consistently misinterpreted and misrepresented sociological research on sexuality, homosexuality, and lesbianism;

    WHEREAS Dr. Paul Cameron has repeatedly campaigned for the abrogation of the civil rights of lesbians and gay men, substantiating his call on the basis of his distorted interpretation of this research;

    WHEREAS the American Sociological Association is on record as opposing oppressive actions against lesbians and gay men and affirming its commitment to their civil rights;

    THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED: THAT the Association reaffirms its opposition to efforts to undermine the civil rights of lesbians and gay men through the distortion of sociological concepts and the falsifying of sociological research; and

    THAT the Association articulates this opposition by charging the Committee on the Status of Homosexuals in Sociology with the task of critically evaluating and publicly responding to the work of Dr. Paul Cameron.

    [Sociology group criticizes work of Paul Cameron. (1985, September 10). Lincoln (NE) Star.] (return to text)

    8 The ASA Task Force findings were described in ASA Footnotes (January, 1987, p. 4). The final resolution and the committee report were published in ASA Footnotes (February, 1987, page 14). Available from the American Sociological Association, Committee on the Status of Homosexuals in Sociology, 1722 N Street, NW, Washington DC 20036. (202) 833-3410. (return to text)

    9On page 536 of his opinion, Judge Buchmeyer noted the following examples of misrepresentations by Cameron to the Court:

    "(i) his sworn statement that "homosexuals are approximately 43 times more apt to commit crimes than is the general population" is a total distortion of the Kinsey data upon which he relies – which, as is obvious to anyone who reads the report, concerns data from a non-representative sample of delinquent homosexuals (and Dr. Cameron compares this group to college and non-college heterosexuals);

    (ii) his sworn statement that "homosexuals abuse children at a proportionately greater incident than do heterosexuals" is based upon the same distorted data – and, the Court notes, is directly contrary to other evidence presented at trial besides the testimony of Dr. Simon and Dr. Marmour. (553 F. Supp. 1121 at 1130 n.18.)"

    [Baker v. Wade, 106 Federal Rules Decisions 526 (N.D. Texas, 1985).] (return to text)

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    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Your source has no merit. Not even a court of law buys Cameron's BS.
    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    Link to evidence please.
    Why it is a good idea to read the thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Uh oh Megyn...your vagina witchcraft is about ready to be exposed.

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    Re: Texas GOP Platform Advocates Criminalizing Gay Marriage, Banning Strip Clubs...

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Why it is a good idea to read the thread.
    The judge himself is not credible, since in his decision he writes that "To seriously contend that a difference in "expert" opinions constitutes fraud and misrepresentation is ridiculous", then goes onto label Cameron as a fraud because his expert testimony conflicts with other experts.

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