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    Re: Texas GOP Platform Advocates Criminalizing Gay Marriage, Banning Strip Clubs...

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    Link to this please.
    Family Research Institute » Blog Archive » Child Molestation and Homosexuality

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    Re: Texas GOP Platform Advocates Criminalizing Gay Marriage, Banning Strip Clubs...

    Even IF you assume that a man molesting a boy is a homosexual (a baseless assumption, btw), your link itself shows that the *majority* of abusers were heterosexual, or at worst, 50/50. So what were you trying to prove, exactly? That it's a well known fact that heterosexuals facilitate more sexual abuse than homosexuals? Because that's pretty much what you showed.

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    Re: Texas GOP Platform Advocates Criminalizing Gay Marriage, Banning Strip Clubs...

    Sorry I don't take much stock from an anti-gay website who's author was dropped out of the APA. Any more creditable source to support this claim?

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    Re: Texas GOP Platform Advocates Criminalizing Gay Marriage, Banning Strip Clubs...

    Not only is the gay rights movement upfront in its desire to legitimize sex with children, but whether indexed by population reports of molestation, pedophile convictions, or teacher-pupil assaults, there is a strong, disproportionate association between child molestation and homosexuality. Ann Landers’ claim that homosexuals molest children at no higher a rate than heterosexuals do is untrue. The assertion by gay leaders and the American Psychological Association that a homosexual is less likely than a heterosexual to molest children is patently false.
    This is the most bigotted bunch of crap I have ever heard in my life, and I would appreciate it if you do not propogate this offensive and downright untrue propoganda again...

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    Re: Texas GOP Platform Advocates Criminalizing Gay Marriage, Banning Strip Clubs...

    The author of that article is not reliable:

    Cameron's credibility was also questioned outside of academia. In his written opinion in Baker v. Wade (1985), Judge Buchmeyer of the U.S. District Court of Dallas referred to "Cameron's sworn statement that 'homosexuals abuse children at a proportionately greater incident than do heterosexuals,'" and concluded that "Dr. Paul Cameron...has himself made misrepresentations to this Court" and that "There has been no fraud or misrepresentations except by Dr. Cameron" (p.536).9

    1Biographical information obtained from various sources, including Cameron's curriculum vitae, Who's Who in the West, 26th Edition, 25th Edition; Who's Who in America, 52nd Edition, 51st Edition, 50th Edition. (return to text)

    2Walter, D. (1985, October 29). Paul Cameron. The Advocate, pp. 28-33. (return to text)

    3Fettner, A.G. (1985, September 23). The evil that men do. New York Native, pp. 23-24. (return to text)

    4Pietrzyk, M.E. (1994, October 3). Queer science: Paul Cameron, professional sham. The New Republic, pp. 10-12. (return to text)

    5Notice: Persons dropped from membership in the American Psychological Association. (1984). Internal communication from APA to all members. (return to text)

    6The full NPA resolution read as follows:

    The science and profession of psychology in Nebraska as represented by the Nebraska Psychological Association, formally dissociates itself from the representations and interpretations of scientific literature offered by Dr. Paul Cameron in his writings and public statements on sexuality. Further, the Nebraska Psychological Association would like it known that Dr. Cameron is not a member of the Association. Dr. Cameron was recently dropped from membership in the American Psychological Association for a violation of the Preamble to the Ethical Principles of Psychologists.

    [Nebraska Psychological Association. (1984, October 19). Resolution. Minutes of the Nebraska Psychological Association. Omaha, Nebraska: Author.] (return to text)

    7A copy of the full ASA resolution in Acrobat PDF format can be downloaded. It read as follows:

    WHEREAS Dr. Paul Cameron, a psychologist, was dropped from membership in The American Psychological Association for violation of the Preamble to the Ethical Principles of Psychologists;

    WHEREAS Dr. Paul Cameron has been presented in the media as a sociologist;

    WHEREAS Dr. Paul Cameron has consistently misinterpreted and misrepresented sociological research on sexuality, homosexuality, and lesbianism;

    WHEREAS Dr. Paul Cameron has repeatedly campaigned for the abrogation of the civil rights of lesbians and gay men, substantiating his call on the basis of his distorted interpretation of this research;

    WHEREAS the American Sociological Association is on record as opposing oppressive actions against lesbians and gay men and affirming its commitment to their civil rights;

    THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED: THAT the Association reaffirms its opposition to efforts to undermine the civil rights of lesbians and gay men through the distortion of sociological concepts and the falsifying of sociological research; and

    THAT the Association articulates this opposition by charging the Committee on the Status of Homosexuals in Sociology with the task of critically evaluating and publicly responding to the work of Dr. Paul Cameron.

    [Sociology group criticizes work of Paul Cameron. (1985, September 10). Lincoln (NE) Star.] (return to text)

    8 The ASA Task Force findings were described in ASA Footnotes (January, 1987, p. 4). The final resolution and the committee report were published in ASA Footnotes (February, 1987, page 14). Available from the American Sociological Association, Committee on the Status of Homosexuals in Sociology, 1722 N Street, NW, Washington DC 20036. (202) 833-3410. (return to text)

    9On page 536 of his opinion, Judge Buchmeyer noted the following examples of misrepresentations by Cameron to the Court:

    "(i) his sworn statement that "homosexuals are approximately 43 times more apt to commit crimes than is the general population" is a total distortion of the Kinsey data upon which he relies – which, as is obvious to anyone who reads the report, concerns data from a non-representative sample of delinquent homosexuals (and Dr. Cameron compares this group to college and non-college heterosexuals);

    (ii) his sworn statement that "homosexuals abuse children at a proportionately greater incident than do heterosexuals" is based upon the same distorted data – and, the Court notes, is directly contrary to other evidence presented at trial besides the testimony of Dr. Simon and Dr. Marmour. (553 F. Supp. 1121 at 1130 n.18.)"

    [Baker v. Wade, 106 Federal Rules Decisions 526 (N.D. Texas, 1985).] (return to text)

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    Re: Texas GOP Platform Advocates Criminalizing Gay Marriage, Banning Strip Clubs...

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    The author of that article is not reliable:
    Genetic Fallacy

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    Re: Texas GOP Platform Advocates Criminalizing Gay Marriage, Banning Strip Clubs...

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    Sorry I don't take much stock from an anti-gay website who's author was dropped out of the APA. Any more creditable source to support this claim?
    Genetic Fallacy

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    Re: Texas GOP Platform Advocates Criminalizing Gay Marriage, Banning Strip Clubs...

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    Genetic Fallacy
    Huh??????????????

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    Re: Texas GOP Platform Advocates Criminalizing Gay Marriage, Banning Strip Clubs...

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Even IF you assume that a man molesting a boy is a homosexual (a baseless assumption, btw), your link itself shows that the *majority* of abusers were heterosexual, or at worst, 50/50. So what were you trying to prove, exactly? That it's a well known fact that heterosexuals facilitate more sexual abuse than homosexuals? Because that's pretty much what you showed.
    Its not baseless to assume that a man who gets exicted about a male body is gay.

    Nice try. The fact is, however, that a higher percentage of gays are pedophiles than the percentage of straights that are pedophiles, and by a large margin.

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    Re: Texas GOP Platform Advocates Criminalizing Gay Marriage, Banning Strip Clubs...

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Huh??????????????
    The genetic fallacy is committed when an idea is either accepted or rejected because of its source, rather than its merit.
    Logical Fallacies» Genetic Fallacy

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