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    Re: Who's Lying? White House Denies Kyl's Immigration Story

    I have no problem believing sen Kyl. Due to obamas' many previous lies, I have a huge problem believing ANYTHING he says..

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    Re: Who's Lying? White House Denies Kyl's Immigration Story

    Quote Originally Posted by country View Post
    I have no problem believing sen Kyl. Due to obamas' many previous lies, I have a huge problem believing ANYTHING he says..
    Thinking like this makes one easily manipulated, a tool.

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    Re: Who's Lying? White House Denies Kyl's Immigration Story

    Funny how everyone lies and Obama is not at fault. Obama keeps pointing fingers and doing nothing.

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    Re: Who's Lying? White House Denies Kyl's Immigration Story

    AT the end of the day, Kyl MADE the accusation... and he simply cannot back it up.... And in case I'm incorrect, ALL politicians Lie...

    So let's reverse the situation shall we

    It started last week when Democratic Sen. Jon Kyl said at a town hall in Tempe, Ariz. that during a recent private meeting in the Oval Office President John McCain said: "The problem is, if we secure the border, then you all won't have any reason to support 'comprehensive immigration reform.'" In other words, Kyl said, the president is holding border security hostage to comprehensive reform.
    Would any of you right wingers believe Sen. Kyl? I'll bet not since every right winger in here and their dog jumped on this story as if it were the bible.

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    Re: Who's Lying? White House Denies Kyl's Immigration Story

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    AT the end of the day, Kyl MADE the accusation... and he simply cannot back it up.... And in case I'm incorrect, ALL politicians Lie...

    So let's reverse the situation shall we



    Would any of you right wingers believe Sen. Kyl? I'll bet not since every right winger in here and their dog jumped on this story as if it were the bible.
    Does this make it believable?

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    Re: Who's Lying? White House Denies Kyl's Immigration Story

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    AT the end of the day, Kyl MADE the accusation... and he simply cannot back it up.... And in case I'm incorrect, ALL politicians Lie...

    So let's reverse the situation shall we



    Would any of you right wingers believe Sen. Kyl? I'll bet not since every right winger in here and their dog jumped on this story as if it were the bible.
    At the end of the day one man has a record of LYING. The other as far as we know does NOT. One is on the RECORD. The other sent his aide out.
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    Re: Who's Lying? White House Denies Kyl's Immigration Story

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Thinking like this makes one easily manipulated, a tool.
    The tool is the one who ignores the record of lying by one man without any reason to disbelieve the other.
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    Re: Who's Lying? White House Denies Kyl's Immigration Story

    Quote Originally Posted by Frozengale View Post
    It's very likely.
    It's also possible that it's simply him twisting his words around. Maybe Obama was talking about Border Security, and Kyl heard something or took it out of context. Remember the best lies are based on truth. The greatest lies are the ones we believe ourselves (especially when we don't know we are lying). Like you said though it is a game of he said/he said. Not to mention people from both parties aren't above lying or twisting facts to get what they want.
    How does that work in your mind? Did you miss the documented lies Obama has told? What part of Kyl's past makes him a liar? Explain yourself.
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    Re: Who's Lying? White House Denies Kyl's Immigration Story

    While I don't believe heresay no matter what - I don't doubt that the president feels this way.

    Much like in the same way that Obama is trying to use the oil-spill in the Gulf to further his staunch views about energy/oil independence and so forth.
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    Re: Who's Lying? White House Denies Kyl's Immigration Story

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Thinking like this makes one easily manipulated, a tool.
    So does willingly swallowing anything fed you based on an ideology.

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