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    Re: The End of Men

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    So? Men had a voice for centuries before women...and the overwhelming majority of social control.
    Uhhh no.

    Voting was rarely universal for men.
    Most of that was relegated to those of nobility.

    Social choices were again made by the nobility, which routinely accounted for less than a percent of all people.
    Not exactly the supreme male dominance that you guys speak of.
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    Re: The End of Men

    Quote Originally Posted by Mell View Post
    My boyfriend also is heavily supportive of womens rights. Though he can be as insensitive to them as men generally are, because they simply dont see the issues that effect women and not them, until women put them forward for attention.
    I think that my boyfriend is actually a lot more sensitive to women's issues, for the most part, than I am. I've spent so long in male-dominated fields that when i see cases where women are in the trenches, breaking new ground, and are dealing with men making rude comments, I'm like, "The women should just suck it up and grow some balls. How did they think it would be to work in NASCAR (or insert any other stereotypically male place of business)?"

    I've really never wanted anything but to be treated like one of the guys and given the same opportunities to show that I can earn my own place.

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    Re: The End of Men

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Uhhh no.

    Voting was rarely universal for men.
    Most of that was relegated to those of nobility.

    Social choices were again made by the nobility, which routinely accounted for less than a percent of all people.
    Not exactly the supreme male dominance that you guys speak of.
    Even amongst the nobility, women had zero options, and less amongst the poor. Spare me the sob story.

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    Re: The End of Men

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Uhhh no.

    Voting was rarely universal for men.
    Most of that was relegated to those of nobility.

    Social choices were again made by the nobility, which routinely accounted for less than a percent of all people.
    Not exactly the supreme male dominance that you guys speak of.
    We don't have 'nobility' in this country. Never have. You must have us confused with the country we revolted against.

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    Re: The End of Men

    Quote Originally Posted by Mell View Post
    What about you try putting yourself in womens shoes and then giving an opinion.

    And, what about men making the choice to be a parent? Are you suggesting we segregate the responsibilities of this and make women solely reponsible for it, both economically and otherwise. Those who are determined to be sexist would say this, but at the same time critisise modern custody laws.
    I do plenty of things that a sexist would classify as "women's work."

    I think people should be left to do as they please.
    We don't need this crap about who is better than the other.
    We shouldn't be defining what women should do for the betterment of all women.

    Let them decide as individuals.
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    Re: The End of Men

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Even amongst the nobility, women had zero options, and less amongst the poor. Spare me the sob story.
    Absolute, complete crap.
    Women in the nobility had 1000x more power than the any poor man.
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    Re: The End of Men

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    We don't have 'nobility' in this country. Never have. You must have us confused with the country we revolted against.
    There was no universal voting for men here initially.
    A nobility of sorts still existed.
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    Re: The End of Men

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    I absolutely adore women who use their sexual prowess as a tool to manipulate men who are deserving of it. Of course, society frowns upon women like these because they consider it disgusting to manipulate. However, I say more power to them. If you have an advantage, take it.
    Women generally associate their worthiness of love with their age and looks and men associate theirs with their power and wealth. But, in reality these things do not buy love. Any women who believes her sexual prowess will win more love or man who believes power and money will win him love will be frowned upon, because these people are not being true to themselves, and are not in fact gaining more love.

    Beautiful women do not receive more love than less beautiful women, and nobody loves a greedy power hungry male tyrannt such as are the leaders of too many countries. Many dont know why they dislike women who only focus on physical beauty and men who only foucs on power. It is because these people dont truly value themselves, which causes others to disrespect them, because everybody is more than their looks and wealth. As well as that, they are basically 'losers' because love is highest human need and most of what we strive for is in the hope that it will win us more love and those who are shallow or ignorant enough to believe that looks or wealth is their fast track to love are wasting themselves.

    While I see nothing wrong with the pleasures of romance, whatever material items it entails, I do see something wrong with overvaluing materialism, and with manipulating people.

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    Re: The End of Men

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Absolute, complete crap.
    Women in the nobility had 1000x more power than the any poor man.
    This is absolute crap. Women of the nobility lived in gilded cages. In fact, the expression gilded cage was likely invented to describe them.

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    Re: The End of Men

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Absolute, complete crap.
    Women in the nobility had 1000x more power than the any poor man.
    Oh really. Did women in the nobility decide who they would marry? Of course not. Did they have the power to elect representatives to government? Nope. In many societies, their lives were incredibly restricted. They could not even show their faces in public, for the most part.

    Take a freaking history class.

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