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    Re: The End of Men

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Great job at hyperbole, care to actually add something?
    I was just taking your "we all have gender roles" argumen to its natural and historic conclusion. ^.^

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    Re: The End of Men

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I think that the notion that women are outdoing men is dishonest and inflammatory.
    I think the notion that women were slaves, is dishonest and exaggerated..
    For the vast majority of history, women have had no voice in selecting their government. They could not own property. If they divorced, they almost always automatically lost custody of their children. Their husband could beat them with impunity. Their father or male relatives determined who they would marry. If the woman refused, she might be forced/raped. Her economic options were EXTREMELY limited.

    Sounds a lot like indentured servitude to me, with no hope of ever buying freedom.

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    Re: The End of Men

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Are you kidding me? For centuries women were treated this way. In some cultures they still are.
    To some degree you could argue that but not to the hyperbolic level that you are making it out to be.

    The vast majority of people in this world, regardless of gender, have been ruled over by despots.
    To say that one had it worse than the other is dishonest or ignorant.


    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Since when? Yes, it's such a burden to be at the top.
    If you count a peasant as "being at the top", you have an unusual world view.
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    Re: The End of Men

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    That's a bit of a stretch in the truth.

    Have women held a lower status, yea.
    Was it right, no.

    Exploited, no.



    A female making the choice of being a parent should not be the burden of society.
    It's important to some people, particularly parents.
    For those that aren't parents, it's not important and it shouldn't be made important.
    What about you try putting yourself in womens shoes and then giving an opinion.

    And, what about men making the choice to be a parent? Are you suggesting we segregate the responsibilities of this and make women solely reponsible for it, both economically and otherwise. Those who are determined to be sexist would say this, but at the same time critisise modern custody laws.

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    Re: The End of Men

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I was just taking your "we all have gender roles" argumen to its natural and historic conclusion. ^.^
    No you're being a troll.
    I didn't say what you wrote at anytime.
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    Re: The End of Men

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    No you're being a troll.
    I didn't say what you wrote at anytime.
    You implied it, but that's okay. Come the revolution, we'll still want you for your sperm...occasionally.

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    Re: The End of Men

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    For the vast majority of history, women have had no voice in selecting their government. They could not own property. If they divorced, they almost always automatically lost custody of their children. Their husband could beat them with impunity. Their father or male relatives determined who they would marry. If the woman refused, she might be forced/raped. Her economic options were EXTREMELY limited.

    Sounds a lot like indentured servitude to me, with no hope of ever buying freedom.
    For the majority of history, most of the peasant class didn't have much of any property to speak of.
    The vast majority of people, both male and female, have had extremely limited economic choices.

    Guess what else, for most of the history of civilization, practically no one had a voice in their government.
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    Re: The End of Men

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    For the majority of history, most of the peasant class didn't have much of any property to speak of.
    The vast majority of people, both male and female, have had extremely limited economic choices.

    Guess what else, for most of the history of civilization, practically no one had a voice in their government.
    So? Men had a voice for centuries before women...and the overwhelming majority of social control.

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    Re: The End of Men

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    You implied it, but that's okay. Come the revolution, we'll still want you for your sperm...occasionally.
    No I didn't.
    You're being a troll because you find it easier to do, than make an actual argument.
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    Re: The End of Men

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    No I didn't.
    You're being a troll because you find it easier to do, than make an actual argument.
    Don't be sad, just because your time has passed.

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