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    Re: The End of Men

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    I doubt that testosterone has any correlation with greed.
    It has a correlation with desire, but I suppose in some this might be excessive to the point of greed.

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    Re: The End of Men

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post

    Men subsidize women, generally speaking.
    What society has been doing is exploiting women, for the benefit of men.

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    Re: The End of Men

    Quote Originally Posted by Mell View Post
    What society has been doing is exploiting women, for the benefit of men.
    Many things in society have been for the benefit of men. I'm very glad to see things starting to shift. Personally, I think a fair amount of the problems in this world stem from male egotism.

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    Re: The End of Men

    Quote Originally Posted by Civil1z@tion View Post
    Men subsidizing women is the old system that is beginning to shift. I personally think that the article overstates the idea of women dominating, but equality is advancing fairly rapidly. The recession is helping this and I view it as one of the few good things to come out of the recession. I highly doubt men are going to become consigned to being "house husbands" or get removed permanently from the workforce, that would be economic suicide to kick out half your country's labor force. No what we're seeing is a rise in equality not female dominance.
    There might be point to the female dominance thing. If things have gone so out of balance in to the male side in society, the process of bringing society back into balance will make women very important for a while.

    I dont think men will be kicked out of the work force either, but I think they will not find it as easy to achieve as they have done for centuries.

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    Re: The End of Men

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Unfortunately it's the old system that they don't want to give up(monetarily), combined with new privileges.

    Just wait, we'll eventually have mandatory, paid leave for new mothers.
    That comes at the expense of men as well.
    It is about time society put more value on motherhood, and recognised its importance. But, I think adequately recognising its importance should be more than just paid leave for new mothers.

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    Re: The End of Men

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Woo hoo!!! Now affirmative action can work for me!
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    No it wont, because the status of men was not reduced to that of bonded slaves, as womens was.

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    Re: The End of Men

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    I am glad that women are making progress, but the article in its entirely leaves out a few key pieces of information. One is that the U.S. is moving towards a service based economy, which means barriers to entry are mostly education and not physical ability. Men still occupy most of the positions in the physical labor force and the types of jobs that no one wants to do. The service industry created a culture of more cushy desk jobs and administrative work. Corporate offices are staffed largely by women, especially at the lower levels, while upper management are still mostly men.

    I want to see their source for the claim that most managers are now women because I find that hard to believe.
    Managers are not yet often women, because of the way companies are set up and the way people in them work. These things would need to change, in order to make the top jobs desirable to women. They are changing, but very slowly. Maybe that will speed up at some point in time.

    I think, many are viewing this, while assuming that society wont change, which is what causes them to not understand.

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    Re: The End of Men

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Many things in society have been for the benefit of men. I'm very glad to see things starting to shift. Personally, I think a fair amount of the problems in this world stem from male egotism.
    Me too. Glad to see them starting to shift that is. I want better for my daughter than the sexist crap I have seen in work places and in society.

    But, I suppose discrimination against us does not really make us less than men are. It just makes us end up with less of the worlds wealth. I hope my daughter will see it like that, and it wont bug her emotionally as it does me.

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    Re: The End of Men

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I guess white men would be the experts on this one, right?
    No facts are the expert witness on this.

    Black males get a particularly bum ride, as they aren't as likely to see a dollar from SS and Medicare, while white females are the biggest beneficiaries.
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    Re: The End of Men

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Every so often, these silly feminist articles pop up in the news. There never will be an end to men. It's a feminist pipe dream, and quite childish at that. .
    I dont think feminists want an end to men. I think, they want women to have the equal social and working rights as men do, and they are making good progress with it too, considering how bad things were in even the most developed countries 200 hundred years ago.

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