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    Re: The End of Men

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    On the whole though, I've liked more of my bossladies than bossmen. I'm not sure if I can even explain why, other than to say Hey, Goshin likes the womenfolks better than menfolks.
    One of the owners of one of the river companies I worked for told me that if he could get away with hiring ALL women as guides, he would. He said he felt we were much better guides than men because we were "nicer" to the guests, more patient, more understanding, less aggressive and competitive with them. But aside from that, he felt that DUE to our *in general* physical strength inferiority, we were forced to actually be better guides. Some of the guys (certainly not all) were able to "muscle" their way down the river. The gals, for the most part - due to either lack of that kind of strength and/or being smarter - would finesse our way down the river. Which one knew the river better? The finesser. We USED the water, the rocks, the varying currents to our advantage. We knew the river like the back of our hand and could read it and finesse it at any water level. The folks who relied on muscle to get down didn't know the currents nearly as well. He said that a female guide makes it "look easy" as we expend far less energy and effort, while the "muscle guy" is working his ass off with not as good results. LOL

    But, that was just his take on it.

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    Re: The End of Men

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post

    Some people don't realize that quite a few of us women have no interest in being a "classic" woman or a "June Cleaver" type. . . and thus trying to use what we do approve of in an insult begs more to a compliment and misses the mark.

    Someone, somewhere around here, tried to cut me down by saying I wasn't very "ladylike" . . . me sitting in my dirty combats clickin away at the keyboard was deeply amused by that one.
    I've been called a lot of names, but a "lady" has never been one of them. Thank god.

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    Re: The End of Men

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Im sure he wont...he will look at you and say...you know...when i saw you up there...sweating...bending over...hauling that plywood and roofing tiles...I swear...its all I could do to keep from...

    See...Im sorry...but thats SEXY...
    Don't be sorry. But really, it wasn't that sexy. It was June. In Florida. I was sweaty and gross and dirty and disgusting.

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    Re: The End of Men

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    I've been called a lot of names, but a "lady" has never been one of them. Thank god.
    I was cussing alot - apparently a typical male considers that to be unladylike. Duly noted . . . moving on
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    Re: The End of Men

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    I've been called a lot of names, but a "lady" has never been one of them. Thank god.
    Since "lady" is code for "female who conforms to the traditional gender role stereotypes of a patriarchal society", I consider it an insult.
    Luckily, nobody's ever tried to call me one.
    I think I'm too little to be a "lady". Ladies are tall.
    I'm more like an oompa-loompa than a lady.

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    Re: The End of Men

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    I'm more like an oompa-loompa than a lady.
    If oompa loompas were skinny and hot.

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    Re: The End of Men

    AWE! Oompa Loompa's had classy talent!
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    Re: The End of Men

    Introduction to academia: find an incredibly attractive headline and exaggerate your main point to differentiate yourself from the other writers in order to receive success. Some women historians (who were also women) felt the need to suggest history was literally hisstory, which had somewhat of a point, but they felt the need to really dramatize their point like a good academic would, by suggesting men (as a whole) have purposefully done women a great disservice in regards to the study of history.

    That being said, meh. I am still irritated to hear stories of good ladies I know complain about how their bosses promote the newer men when they are more knowledgeable about the business's inner-workings, and that they treat them differently because of their gender. For some places, I do believe women are treated worse than men in business, and that does irritate me. However, I'm no cheerleader for you girls. Nor am I feeling like I need to really defend my sex.
    However, it does make me smirk when I see someone discuss how horrible it was for women throughout history, when if we really get down to it, depended upon time and place. There was such a thing as women quite content with their place in society. This does not mean that there was not plenty of desire to move up during points in history, or perhaps with specific groups of people (ex., women public intellectuals, women activists in the 19th century who felt that marriage would be the end of their careers-and rightly so), but we do have to accept that there were plenty of women who could not join women who wanted to get more in the way other "liberal" or "progressive" women desired, or for that matter, how we would feel about it.
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    Re: The End of Men

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    There was such a thing as women quite content with their place in society.
    Sure - there are always people who accept how the world *is* without questioning or considering it.

    But why they accepted it (as in - they felt they had no choice or they believed that fighting it was futile) and whether or not they *really* felt ok/not ok or if it was just a skin-deep show is something we don't know and can only mull over.
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    Re: The End of Men

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Don't be sorry. But really, it wasn't that sexy. It was June. In Florida. I was sweaty and gross and dirty and disgusting.
    OK...you say so...but sweaty...hot...ya just made me tingle! ;-)

    Just kidding...but Im betting your guy felt that way!

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