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    Why the WH won't secure our borders

    For those not wanting to or willing to watch the video posted (the pertinant part starts at about 3:15), here's the summary:

    Obama doesn't want to secure the Arizona border unless he gets something out of it. On it's face that may seem to be a simple charge of "business as usual" yet, it is in direct violation the President's oath of office. Discharging and doing one's duty should not be held hostage to gain political points when, as it is in this case, people are dying, being kidnapped, and potentially our national security is being violated every day.

    This is gross negligence and if what Kyle says occurred - it's gross negligence.


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    Re: Why the WH won't secure our borders

    Obama doesn't want to secure the Arizona border unless he gets something out of it
    It's always been that way - which seems in direct contrast to his oath of office - but it's always been that way.

    Every - single - thing passed and done in government benefits government somehow. If securing the border meant the government would gain massive net profit - then they'd be all over it. right now, though, it seems like an expense that has no 'up' side other than upholding the law
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    Re: Why the WH won't secure our borders

    Funny how this became such a big deal when there was a (D) in the president's slot. The (R)'s seem to get a pass.
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    Re: Why the WH won't secure our borders

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Funny how this became such a big deal when there was a (D) in the president's slot. The (R)'s seem to get a pass.
    Or maybe the cummulative effect of illegals crossing over each year, the increased drug trafficing has finally reached a peak. It could be that the same would be happening if there was a (R) President. The bottom line the Feds need to do the job of immigration and border security. It has been failing for years and years.

    If in fact Kyle statements are true, then shame on or President. Thought Obama wanted to change the way Washington did business. Looks like he is going to continue the same old methods. IMO, we need elected officials who will do what is good for America and not what is good for the party.
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    Re: Why the WH won't secure our borders

    Thats the way politics are done in Chicago, why would we expect anything else from the Obama administration. Since the last amnesty was granted by President Regan all American presidents have neglected to do there duty to secure the border. I am ok with Immigration reform with a path to citizenship if it comes with complete border security which must happen first. I would prefer deportation but I doubt that is going to take place, so we compromise, but only on the condition that the border is permanently secured first.
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    Re: Why the WH won't secure our borders

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    For those not wanting to or willing to watch the video posted (the pertinant part starts at about 3:15), here's the summary:

    Obama doesn't want to secure the Arizona border unless he gets something out of it. On it's face that may seem to be a simple charge of "business as usual" yet, it is in direct violation the President's oath of office. Discharging and doing one's duty should not be held hostage to gain political points when, as it is in this case, people are dying, being kidnapped, and potentially our national security is being violated every day.

    This is gross negligence and if what Kyle says occurred - it's gross negligence.

    Interesting revelation. You have the date of when that town hall meeting took place? Be great to see how Obama would respond to Kyle's charge at the next presidential press conference.


    (and what is up with that furry ball cap the guy on the left was wearing....? )



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    Re: Why the WH won't secure our borders

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Funny how this became such a big deal when there was a (D) in the president's slot. The (R)'s seem to get a pass.
    We wouldn't even be discussing it if Arizona hadn't passed their bill - so that makes us all hypocrites, I guess.
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    Re: Why the WH won't secure our borders

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post

    This is gross negligence and if what Kyle says occurred - it's gross negligence.

    A couple of points. The word IF is an important one. It very well may not have gone down as Kyle reports it. Being private is very convienent for him.

    Second, comprhensive reform is more important in the long term. However, neither party will ever really tackle this problem. Illgeal immigration has been a problem for as long as I can remember. Name any time either party actually closed or secured the boarder? Other than talk, which both sides have a certain skill at, show where either the democrats or the republicans have ever really acted? I suggest you can't because they really don't want to. And the reason has to do with needing cheap labor.

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    Re: Why the WH won't secure our borders

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Funny how this became such a big deal when there was a (D) in the president's slot. The (R)'s seem to get a pass.
    I seem to recall quite a bit of disgust by the right about this issue not being tackled by the republicans. It was one of many strikes against Sen. McCain for conservatives in the election. Not saying he would have won had his stance been different, but nobody on the right was really pleased with McCain for this reason(amongst others).

    At some point, Obama does have the ability and power to do "something". Maybe its time we start expecting him to secure our borders now, rather than lament that it wasn't done in the past. Or maybe like his predecessors, he doesn't want the negative stigma that the left would certainly attach to such an action. Although they likely wouldn't say he was racist, if he did something.
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    Re: Why the WH won't secure our borders

    Quote Originally Posted by Cole View Post
    Interesting revelation. You have the date of when that town hall meeting took place? Be great to see how Obama would respond to Kyle's charge at the next presidential press conference.


    (and what is up with that furry ball cap the guy on the left was wearing....? )

    Yeah, that furry cap was distracting me through the whole clip...
    According to RedState, which is on my RSS crawl on my browser:

    On June 18, 2010, Sen. Jon Kyl appeared in Phoenix at a town hall style meeting hosted by the North Phoenix Tea Party Group.

    ]Sen. Jon Kyl on strategies to fight for our rights against the leftist Dems, Minion Media and Elena Kagan | RedState
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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