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    Hillary Clinton drops immigration bombshell: Feds will sue Arizona

    Hillary Clinton drops immigration bombshell: Feds will sue Arizona

    The Obama administration is suing Arizona over its immigration law?

    If thatís news to you, itís because such a lawsuit hasnít been announced by the Justice Department.

    But why should DOJ handle such news when Hillary Clinton could take care of it while talking to a local TV reporter in Ecuador?

    Crazy? Nope. Sounds like Secretary Clinton didnít get the right talking points.

    "President Obama has spoken out against the law because he thinks the federal government should be determining immigration policy," Clinton told the reporter (video below).

    "The Justice Department, under his direction, will be bringing a lawsuit against the act," she blabbed.

    Guess who's not happy. Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer.

    "To learn of this lawsuit through an Ecuadorean interview with the secretary of state is just outrageous," she said in a statement. "If our own government intends to sue our state to prevent illegal immigration enforcement, the least it can do is inform us before it informs the citizens of another nation."
    Hillary Clinton drops immigration bombshell: Feds will sue Arizona | Top of the Ticket | Los Angeles Times

    Why sue Arizona when most Americans and most Arizonans support this law?

    OBL 11/24/02

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    Re: Hillary Clinton drops immigration bombshell: Feds will sue Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    Why sue Arizona when most Americans and most Arizonans support this law?
    Because Arizona has no right to set its own foreign policy, regardless of its level of popular support.
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    Re: Hillary Clinton drops immigration bombshell: Feds will sue Arizona

    Guess who's not happy. Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer.

    "To learn of this lawsuit through an Ecuadorean interview with the secretary of state is just outrageous," she said in a statement. "If our own government intends to sue our state to prevent illegal immigration enforcement, the least it can do is inform us before it informs the citizens of another nation."
    why is it incumbent on the federal government to give heads up to the state?
    i do not recall the state of arizona being concerned about the implications of its law on the federal sector ... so why would the state expect consideration it did not itself render?
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    Re: Hillary Clinton drops immigration bombshell: Feds will sue Arizona

    It really is not a surprise, the administration has made it clear they planned on challenging the law in court. The courts is the appropriate place to challenge the law.
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    Re: Hillary Clinton drops immigration bombshell: Feds will sue Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Because Arizona has no right to set its own foreign policy, regardless of its level of popular support.
    There laws were changed to reflect federal law, how is that considered setting foreign policy?
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    Re: Hillary Clinton drops immigration bombshell: Feds will sue Arizona

    Any idea what they are charging? The quote in the article indicates that they believe the Federal government should be dictating immigration policy, but isn't the Arizona law only getting itself in line with the Federal law?

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    Re: Hillary Clinton drops immigration bombshell: Feds will sue Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Because Arizona has no right to set its own foreign policy, regardless of its level of popular support.
    Question. Have you read the law? It does not set policy. The Feds have already done that. It gives local LE the ability to detain/arrest illegal’s, but only after a legal stop and reasonable suspicion to check status.
    What part of coming into the US illegal is breaking a Federal Law don't you understand? It is a shame that this administration and past administrations have ignored border security for so long.

    Also, if Hilary's comment is true, what does it say about the administration that does not have the courtesy, to contact the Governor first. IMO, it’s pretty gutless.
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    Re: Hillary Clinton drops immigration bombshell: Feds will sue Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    There laws were changed to reflect federal law, how is that considered setting foreign policy?
    Arizona is not responsible for enforcing federal laws; that is the federal government's prerogative to enforce (or not enforce) them.
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    Re: Hillary Clinton drops immigration bombshell: Feds will sue Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    Question. Have you read the law? It does not set policy. The Feds have already done that. It gives local LE the ability to detain/arrest illegal’s, but only after a legal stop and reasonable suspicion to check status.
    What part of coming into the US illegal is breaking a Federal Law don't you understand? It is a shame that this administration and past administrations have ignored border security for so long.
    Arizona is not responsible for enforcing federal laws.

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810
    Also, if Hilary's comment is true, what does it say about the administration that does not have the courtesy, to contact the Governor first. IMO, it’s pretty gutless.
    Meh, I don't really care. Whether or not they go through the motions of courtesy is irrelevant to the substance of the issue, and doesn't really change anything.
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    Re: Hillary Clinton drops immigration bombshell: Feds will sue Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Arizona is not responsible for enforcing federal laws; that is the federal government's prerogative to enforce (or not enforce) them.
    But isn't it illegal for a state to have a law that conflicts with a Federal law? If there's a Federal law saying "segregation is bad," you can't have a law that goes "segregation is neutral." In the same sense, you can't have a Federal law that says "illegal immigration is illegal" and a state law that says "illegal immigration is neutral."

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