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    Re: Hillary Clinton drops immigration bombshell: Feds will sue Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Redbeard View Post
    So you didn't read them.
    I did in fact look up each. None of them address the planned legal challenge.
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    Re: Hillary Clinton drops immigration bombshell: Feds will sue Arizona

    The WH has yet to define the grounds of any chanllenge. They would be setting themselves up as comedians if the try to use *misguided* as grounds.

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    Re: Hillary Clinton drops immigration bombshell: Feds will sue Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Redbeard View Post
    The WH has yet to define the grounds of any chanllenge. They would be setting themselves up as comedians if the try to use *misguided* as grounds.
    You need to get better informed. Justice Department poised to challenge Arizona immigration law - Los Angeles Times

    Top Justice Department officials have drafted a legal challenge asserting that Arizona's controversial immigration law is unconstitutional because it impinges on the federal government's authority to police the nation's borders, sources said Wednesday.
    The Wednesday mentioned was in May by the way, which kinda disproves the whole "no one told us" claim in the OP.
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    Re: Hillary Clinton drops immigration bombshell: Feds will sue Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So you list a bunch of cases that have nothing to do with the grounds that the Arizona law is going to be challenged under. This is supposed to prove something?
    I was responding to post 8. A comment was made that AZ has no right to enforce Federal law. So my post is valid. Guess we will have to see what the courts say.
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    Re: Hillary Clinton drops immigration bombshell: Feds will sue Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    I was responding to post 8. A comment was made that AZ has no right to enforce Federal law. So my post is valid. Guess we will have to see what the courts say.
    Your cases as best I could see did not address that issue. You are right though that we will have to wait and see what the courts say.
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    Re: Hillary Clinton drops immigration bombshell: Feds will sue Arizona

    [B]At first[B] thought "discrimanation" BUT THENI sat down and read thro and if they have to be in a accedent or pulled over or put in a reason they need to show papers FIRST and can produce the 'stuff' they need to prove they live here then why would we just look over that..i dont care who you are mexican french german ect. you need to be here leagly and if the fedral goverment cant make that happen then the states have the 10th admendment on there side to do it!
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    Re: Hillary Clinton drops immigration bombshell: Feds will sue Arizona

    Drafted, but yet to be filed!
    impinges on the federal government's authority to police the nation's borders will be difficult to prove (if/when filed) as the AZ law has nothing to do with policing the border.
    At the same time, the government officials said, the department's civil rights section is considering possible legal action against the law on the basis that it amounts to racial profiling of Latinos who are legally in Arizona but conceivably could be asked to provide documents proving their citizenship. Notice the words *considering possible legal action* on the rcial profiling. [If] they do use, then a revamping of the Federal Immigration Laws will be necessary first.

    Redress:
    Your cases as best I could see did not address that issue.
    What issue are you speaking of specifically?

    P.S. Thanks for the article....

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    Re: Hillary Clinton drops immigration bombshell: Feds will sue Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The administration has made it clear it plans to challenge the law for some time.
    Think it boils down to the fact that Arizona is calling the federal government to just enforce the ****ing laws that currently exist. Should be fascinating to see how the courts respond. And then see how the feds respond on actually enforcing the present laws.

    Give kudos to Arizona for forcing the issue.....



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    Re: Hillary Clinton drops immigration bombshell: Feds will sue Arizona

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    Hillary Clinton drops immigration bombshell: Feds will sue Arizona



    Hillary Clinton drops immigration bombshell: Feds will sue Arizona | Top of the Ticket | Los Angeles Times

    Why sue Arizona when most Americans and most Arizonans support this law?
    Hillary Clinton is the first person to serve as both Sec State and Atty Gen. Holder better step aside before she puts his testicles in her lockbox.

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    Re: Hillary Clinton drops immigration bombshell: Feds will sue Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So you list a bunch of cases that have nothing to do with the grounds that the Arizona law is going to be challenged under. This is supposed to prove something?
    The supreme court has ruled fed INS agents CAN profile illegals based on appearance. The Arizona law speicifically forbids their state law enforcement from profiling. The federal government created programs that TRAINED state law enforcement to enforce INS laws. Other than the potential for profiling the ONLY differencebetween the Arizona state law and the federal law is that Arizona actually plans to ENFORCE the law. Im STILL waiting for ANYONE to give a legitimate reason for opposing the Arizona law. It doesnt CREATE anything new. It reinforces federal law.

    Arizona and every state ought to file a countersuit against the federal government for every dollar it costs their state to deal with a problem the Fed has created.

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